Bohemia an integral part of modern Germany

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Using the POD of your choice, how do you get Bohemia to be considered an integral part of modern Germany?
 
As I said in other threads, an eventual break-up of the AH Empire by some spurious reason at the beginning of the 20th century would have allowed Germany to annex the Austrian side of the Empire, at least proper Austria, Slovenia, Austrian Silesia and Bohemia-Moravia (Galitzia would have been delivered to Russia, probably).
If WWI does not finally happen in this scenario (no Sarajevo crime issue, as AH no longer exists) and obvioulsy WWII doesn't happen too, you would have a modern Germany today comprising Bohemia.
 
It's probably only one of the PoD possibles, but I'll give it a try.

Prevent the appearance of Greater Moravia, and make Bohemia the equivalent of slavic marches in N-E Holy Roman Empire : Bohemia could go the same road than Carinthia, from slavic region dominated by german elites, and germanised slowly (by acculturation and local settlements).
 
No Hussite Wars? Maybe the Catholic Church reforms itself or maybe there is no polish support. Also I think a stable monarch under a German King-elector. Maybe Bohemia even becomes the "Prussia" of an alternate German empire.
 
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1848 Greater German Republic!:D

Didn't the bohemians refused to acknowledge Francfort Parliment decision to include Bohemia (the same going for Moravia)? DId they even send representatives?
At this time, Bohemia was enough identified as distinct from Germany, that they included it "depsite being non-german".
 
Didn't the bohemians refused to acknowledge Francfort Parliment decision to include Bohemia (the same going for Moravia)? DId they even send representatives?
At this time, Bohemia was enough identified as distinct from Germany, that they included it "depsite being non-german".

Yes, you are right.

It's a real pitty that the German Republic did not succeed in 1848. Europe would have probably saved three stupid wars :(
 
Yes, you are right.

It's a real pitty that the German Republic did not succeed in 1848. Europe would have probably saved three stupid wars :(

Or a more important Germany would have been even more of a threat. At this point, it's hard to say what would have been the long term outcome.
And, at least for a federation held together by wishful thinking, being stuck between Austria, Prussia, France and Russia wouldn't have been pleasant for Germans.
 
Didn't the bohemians refused to acknowledge Francfort Parliment decision to include Bohemia (the same going for Moravia)? DId they even send representatives?
At this time, Bohemia was enough identified as distinct from Germany, that they included it "depsite being non-german".

Probably yes, but never let logic come in the way of good looking maps!;)

It's a real pitty that the German Republic did not succeed in 1848. Europe would have probably saved three stupid wars :(
Yes, because the reasons for said wars, would have been butterflied away, because:...............reasons! :rolleyes:

Or a more important Germany would have been even more of a threat. At this point, it's hard to say what would have been the long term outcome.
Hard to predict, a liberal republic which dont go on naval adventures and which has not the same quarrels with Italy and Russia is certainly a good thing. But I would bet my money that the Europeans of that time still find reasons to kill themself in the millions.

And, at least for a federation held together by wishful thinking, being stuck between Austria, Prussia, France and Russia wouldn't have been pleasant for Germans.
What? Care to explain? I dont understand, who is stuck between who? And who is held together:confused:
 
Or a more important Germany would have been even more of a threat. At this point, it's hard to say what would have been the long term outcome.
And, at least for a federation held together by wishful thinking, being stuck between Austria, Prussia, France and Russia wouldn't have been pleasant for Germans.

An eventual German Republic at that time should have been included either Austria or Prussia (this is more likely), otherwise it was doomed.
In the best scenario, a German Republic lead by Prussia would have crushed the AH Empire afterwards, incorporating the Austrian side. Result: no German Empire and no AH Empire. A German Rep. would have build more ties with France (no Alsace-Lorraine issue in this case) and Russia would have been apeased with Galitzia until unavoidable Bolshevik revolution would have crushed the Romanovs.
Probably a 'Great' Germany built just before 1850 and no threatened by France or Russia, would have been by far less aggressive than in OTL.
 
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