Bog, Vozhd, Rodina - The History of the All-Russian People’s State
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Like IRL he wasn’t an Okhrana agent, it’s just that Shaumyan was better at convincing Lenin here.
Why do I feel as though Stalin will be head of the Russian secret police ITTL?
Stalin certainly is no strange to shady methods and political intrigue, and he was never known to be very charismatic.
BlackDragon98
Banned
You know that it's hell on earth when the ex-mobster becomes the secret police chief.
And unlike all of Stalin’s secret police chiefs IOTL, Stalin would remain the undisputed head of whatever the secret police organisation would be called.
probably because he would have anyone gunning for his position working 20 hour days in Siberia within a week.
Characters
As I’ve done in other timelines before, here too you are able to create your own characters that might be able to change the history of Russia and the world. There are some limitations of course: The character has to live in Russia and it’s dominions, the character cannot be of a very high rank like inside of the Vozhd’s inner circle (that’s up to me to include or not) and no Mary Sue characters, can’t have someone perfect in everything that only doesn’t take over the world because it doesn’t want to, and I reserve the right to approve or reject any character. With that out of the way, here is the format:
Name: (Self Explanatory, it must have a name)
Gender: (Male or Female)
Age: (I would personally prefer if was born after the 1890s or the PoD but doesn’t prevent you to do it earlier)
Birthplace: (Somewhere within the borders of the Russian Empire in 1913)
Occupation: (Don’t go for something very high like a Minister or President, be more realistic)
Political views: (Here put the general worldview, be more specific than just left or right)
Background: (Here you explain how was the life of your character so far, the childhood, where studied, career, involvement in the Great War, no need to be very specific, just so your character can be known better)
Name: (Self Explanatory, it must have a name)
Gender: (Male or Female)
Age: (I would personally prefer if was born after the 1890s or the PoD but doesn’t prevent you to do it earlier)
Birthplace: (Somewhere within the borders of the Russian Empire in 1913)
Occupation: (Don’t go for something very high like a Minister or President, be more realistic)
Political views: (Here put the general worldview, be more specific than just left or right)
Background: (Here you explain how was the life of your character so far, the childhood, where studied, career, involvement in the Great War, no need to be very specific, just so your character can be known better)
So here is my own character, i hope that it would be accepted by the author.
Name: Yuriy Zakharov
Gender: Male
Born: 01.05.1895
Birthplace: Moscow
Occupation: 1914 – 1917 Soldier
1917 – 1919 Manual Worker
Political views:
Embittered by the post-war Russian situation, Yuriy has completely changed his worldview. Before the war, he could have been considered a cosmopolitan. However, everything changed when Yuriy was enlisted in the army. Fatal situation on the front, Russia's defeat against Germany, ubiquitous corruption and the incompetence of its commanders completely changed Yuriy. Yuriy began to blame the Tsar, the aristocracy and the entire ruling class for the increasingly worse situation in the country. His views seemed to be confirmed as correct when Russia was completely defeated by Germany and forced to sign the Treaty of Lublin. After the war, his views began to be even more extreme and radical. According to him, it was not only the tsar and the aristocracy who was to blame, but almost everyone who was not affected by the post-war crisis. This group included the rich, Jews, clergy and bureaucrats. The theory has developed in Yuriy's mind that Russia and the Russians fell victim to an international conspiracy aimed to destroy his homeland and his compatriots. Yuriy has also completely rejected Christianity. In his opinion, Christianity was an instrument of the Jews and clergy to enslave and exploit the Russians and Russia. He also believed that the answer to this must be a return to the religion of his ancestors, i.e. Slavic paganism. Yuriy's great dream was to completely rebuild Russia and Russian society so that Russia could be reborn like a phoenix from ashes. The aim of this country would be complete domination of Asia and Europe and avenging defeat in the Great War. Russia's aim should be a unificationof all Slavic people against the Jewish-German threat. In his theory, Yuriy has emphasised the place and role of the Russian people. According to this theory, it was the Russians who were the real l chosen people predestined to rule Eurasia for the next thousand years.
Background:
Yuriy was born in Moscow in 1895. His father worked in a factory and his mother was a seamstress. As a child he did not cause much trouble and could always count on the support of his parents and siblings. After graduating from school Yuriy wanted to become a student, but his family was not sufficiently wealthy to send Yuriy to study. In 1914 Yuriy was called up to the Russian army. During this time Yuriy served as a dispatch runner. He spent the last months of the war in hospital because he was seriously injured in his left leg. After the end of the war and demobilisation, Yuriy returned to his family home in Moscow. Unfortunately, after returning home, Yuriy could not find a permanent job and was forced to take on various jobs as a gardener or doorman, which led him to bitterness and desperation. Over time, Yuriy fell into alcoholism and spent all his money on alcohol. He also spent more and more time in beer halls. The breakthrough moment in his life was the day when he heard for the first time an exciting speech of the man known as Mikhail Tukhachevsky. This speech made such an impression on Yuriy that he considered this man to be someone he would follow in the fire. Under the influence of a speech by Tukhachevsky and his own beliefs Yuriy decided to join the PNOR.According to Yuriy, his life started to make sense again and his life's aim was to serve the party, the leader and the Russian people.
Name: Yuriy Zakharov
Gender: Male
Born: 01.05.1895
Birthplace: Moscow
Occupation: 1914 – 1917 Soldier
1917 – 1919 Manual Worker
Political views:
Embittered by the post-war Russian situation, Yuriy has completely changed his worldview. Before the war, he could have been considered a cosmopolitan. However, everything changed when Yuriy was enlisted in the army. Fatal situation on the front, Russia's defeat against Germany, ubiquitous corruption and the incompetence of its commanders completely changed Yuriy. Yuriy began to blame the Tsar, the aristocracy and the entire ruling class for the increasingly worse situation in the country. His views seemed to be confirmed as correct when Russia was completely defeated by Germany and forced to sign the Treaty of Lublin. After the war, his views began to be even more extreme and radical. According to him, it was not only the tsar and the aristocracy who was to blame, but almost everyone who was not affected by the post-war crisis. This group included the rich, Jews, clergy and bureaucrats. The theory has developed in Yuriy's mind that Russia and the Russians fell victim to an international conspiracy aimed to destroy his homeland and his compatriots. Yuriy has also completely rejected Christianity. In his opinion, Christianity was an instrument of the Jews and clergy to enslave and exploit the Russians and Russia. He also believed that the answer to this must be a return to the religion of his ancestors, i.e. Slavic paganism. Yuriy's great dream was to completely rebuild Russia and Russian society so that Russia could be reborn like a phoenix from ashes. The aim of this country would be complete domination of Asia and Europe and avenging defeat in the Great War. Russia's aim should be a unificationof all Slavic people against the Jewish-German threat. In his theory, Yuriy has emphasised the place and role of the Russian people. According to this theory, it was the Russians who were the real l chosen people predestined to rule Eurasia for the next thousand years.
Background:
Yuriy was born in Moscow in 1895. His father worked in a factory and his mother was a seamstress. As a child he did not cause much trouble and could always count on the support of his parents and siblings. After graduating from school Yuriy wanted to become a student, but his family was not sufficiently wealthy to send Yuriy to study. In 1914 Yuriy was called up to the Russian army. During this time Yuriy served as a dispatch runner. He spent the last months of the war in hospital because he was seriously injured in his left leg. After the end of the war and demobilisation, Yuriy returned to his family home in Moscow. Unfortunately, after returning home, Yuriy could not find a permanent job and was forced to take on various jobs as a gardener or doorman, which led him to bitterness and desperation. Over time, Yuriy fell into alcoholism and spent all his money on alcohol. He also spent more and more time in beer halls. The breakthrough moment in his life was the day when he heard for the first time an exciting speech of the man known as Mikhail Tukhachevsky. This speech made such an impression on Yuriy that he considered this man to be someone he would follow in the fire. Under the influence of a speech by Tukhachevsky and his own beliefs Yuriy decided to join the PNOR.According to Yuriy, his life started to make sense again and his life's aim was to serve the party, the leader and the Russian people.
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Name: Vladimir Pavlov
Gender: Male
Age: 27 (b. March 6, 1892)
Birthplace: St. Petersburg
Occupation:
Student (1910-1914)
Soldier (1914-1916)
Junior Officer (1916-1917)
Professor (1918-1919)
Political views: Believes in the idea of Russia as a "Eurasian" nation, incorporating the best of Europe and Asia and shaped by the geography of the Eurasian steppes, arguing that Russian people (and by implication, the other Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe) have more in common with the peoples of the Eurasian Steppes in the Turks, Mongols, and native Siberians than with the Europeans. He has a theory of European history as well where he argues that there are three natural "civilizations" in Europe, the Romantic Civilization (a category which, to him, also includes the Greeks), the Celto-Germanic Civilization, and the Eurasian Civilization and that Celto-Germanic Civilization is a greater threat to the Romantic and Eurasian Civilizations than the Romantic and Eurasian civilizations are to each other, therefore, the Romantic and Eurasian civilizations must band together to defeat the Celto-Germanics.
As such, he believes that Russia needs to eliminate "Celto-Germanic" influence, believing that a "fifth column" of "Celto-Germanics" sabotaged the Russian war effort and that Russia needs to "renew" itself under the Vozhd. Despite this, he, in accordance with his belief in Russia as a Eurasian nation, is open to integrating Russia's various Turkic minorities into the Russian state. In addition, he sees in Tukhachevsky a "philosopher-king" who would "renew" Russia and set about creating a "Eurasian" nation.
Background:
Vladimir Pavlov was born to a prominent aristocratic family on March 6, 1892 and initially wanted to become a professor of history and while he is still such a professor, focusing on studies of the interactions between Russians and the various peoples of the steppes, the experiences he had as a soldier and later as a junior officer would change him forever as he fought against the Germans during the war heroically and developed a close rapport with a Tatar soldier who was his best friend in the trenches until he died just before the war ended. The war would radicalize him against the Germans and when he returned to his studies, he would come into contact with one Nikolai Trubetskoy, who he shared many ideas regarding Russia as a "Eurasian" nation with him. However, Pavlov, having served in the trenches, would develop a more radical take on the Eurasianist ideas of his friend and eventually join Mikhail Tukhachevsky after hearing a speech of his.
Gender: Male
Age: 27 (b. March 6, 1892)
Birthplace: St. Petersburg
Occupation:
Student (1910-1914)
Soldier (1914-1916)
Junior Officer (1916-1917)
Professor (1918-1919)
Political views: Believes in the idea of Russia as a "Eurasian" nation, incorporating the best of Europe and Asia and shaped by the geography of the Eurasian steppes, arguing that Russian people (and by implication, the other Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe) have more in common with the peoples of the Eurasian Steppes in the Turks, Mongols, and native Siberians than with the Europeans. He has a theory of European history as well where he argues that there are three natural "civilizations" in Europe, the Romantic Civilization (a category which, to him, also includes the Greeks), the Celto-Germanic Civilization, and the Eurasian Civilization and that Celto-Germanic Civilization is a greater threat to the Romantic and Eurasian Civilizations than the Romantic and Eurasian civilizations are to each other, therefore, the Romantic and Eurasian civilizations must band together to defeat the Celto-Germanics.
As such, he believes that Russia needs to eliminate "Celto-Germanic" influence, believing that a "fifth column" of "Celto-Germanics" sabotaged the Russian war effort and that Russia needs to "renew" itself under the Vozhd. Despite this, he, in accordance with his belief in Russia as a Eurasian nation, is open to integrating Russia's various Turkic minorities into the Russian state. In addition, he sees in Tukhachevsky a "philosopher-king" who would "renew" Russia and set about creating a "Eurasian" nation.
Background:
Vladimir Pavlov was born to a prominent aristocratic family on March 6, 1892 and initially wanted to become a professor of history and while he is still such a professor, focusing on studies of the interactions between Russians and the various peoples of the steppes, the experiences he had as a soldier and later as a junior officer would change him forever as he fought against the Germans during the war heroically and developed a close rapport with a Tatar soldier who was his best friend in the trenches until he died just before the war ended. The war would radicalize him against the Germans and when he returned to his studies, he would come into contact with one Nikolai Trubetskoy, who he shared many ideas regarding Russia as a "Eurasian" nation with him. However, Pavlov, having served in the trenches, would develop a more radical take on the Eurasianist ideas of his friend and eventually join Mikhail Tukhachevsky after hearing a speech of his.
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Okay so, I’m this next chapter, we can either have how the PNOR started to get noticed by the higher ups of society or the Russian Republic between 1918-1920 which includes the trial of Nicholas II. And there is always the option to look at another country as WWI ends, the 1920 elections arrive in America, and the post-war recession begins.
The same way that Emil Maurice survived in Germany. Being a personal friend of your leader suddenly makes your ancestry irrelevant as long as said leader has your back. Besides, he doesn’t have to tell anyone about that and just says his mother was Russian. Although that will cause problems in the future once the Secret Police starts collecting dirt on other inner circle members.
BlackDragon98
Banned
Just remember not to get into a relationship with your leader's niece and all will be quite well.
Name: Natalia Pavlova (nee Orlova)
Gender: Female
Age: 25 (b. September 25, 1894)
Birthplace: St. Petersburg
Occupation:
Nurse (1914-1917)
Author (1918-Present)
Political views: Like her husband, a devout follower of Eurasianism and the idea that Russia is a "Eurasian" nation with more similarities with the Turkic peoples and the Mongols than the West in terms of culture and background. As such, she believes that Russia must become the leader of the Eurasian peoples and lead the Eurasian civilization to victory against the "Celto-Germanics."
Background: Natalia Pavlova, much like her husband, was born to a wealthy aristocratic family and would initially live a life of relative comfort and luxury until the Great War, where she would volunteer as a nurse and would meet the love of her life, Vladimir Pavlov, while he was being tended to his wounds during the war. As the relationship between them blossomed with the two writing to each other after Vladimir had recovered, the two shared many ideas and would share a devotion to the ideology of Eurasianism. However, while her husband became a professor, Natalia would become an author, initially writing poetry about the relationship of the Russian people to its geographical settings but is currently writing a historical novel on the life of Alexander Nevsky, emphasizing both his struggles against the Teutonic Knights and his close alliance with the Mongols.
Gender: Female
Age: 25 (b. September 25, 1894)
Birthplace: St. Petersburg
Occupation:
Nurse (1914-1917)
Author (1918-Present)
Political views: Like her husband, a devout follower of Eurasianism and the idea that Russia is a "Eurasian" nation with more similarities with the Turkic peoples and the Mongols than the West in terms of culture and background. As such, she believes that Russia must become the leader of the Eurasian peoples and lead the Eurasian civilization to victory against the "Celto-Germanics."
Background: Natalia Pavlova, much like her husband, was born to a wealthy aristocratic family and would initially live a life of relative comfort and luxury until the Great War, where she would volunteer as a nurse and would meet the love of her life, Vladimir Pavlov, while he was being tended to his wounds during the war. As the relationship between them blossomed with the two writing to each other after Vladimir had recovered, the two shared many ideas and would share a devotion to the ideology of Eurasianism. However, while her husband became a professor, Natalia would become an author, initially writing poetry about the relationship of the Russian people to its geographical settings but is currently writing a historical novel on the life of Alexander Nevsky, emphasizing both his struggles against the Teutonic Knights and his close alliance with the Mongols.
Both sound interesting but I think we should focus first on Russia.
Perhaps Nikolay Vasilyevich Ustryalov could be the leader of the PNOR's Eurasianist Faction. He was also a National Bolshevik, so there's that.
I could see Stalin becoming something of Bormann in TTL, it was a how he gained power OTL afterall. Will he continue to finance PNOR the same way he financed Bolsheviks?
Name: Grigory Shorin
Gender: Male
Age: born October 14th 1892
Birthplace: Mishutino (village between Yaroslav and Vologda
Occupation: peasant, soldier (1913-1917), lumpenproletariat
Political views: Grigory never held any strong political views, except the need for agrarian reform, but he was swept up by the mass movement of disgruntled soldiers in 1917, however he grew disillusioned by the revolutionary government, whom he considered no lesser bunglers than the tzarist predecessers. Feeling used, he was soured on the politics in general, until he started running errands for PNOR.
Background: Born as eight of fourteen children in poor peasant family, Grigory's outlook in life was poor. Doing farm work on land that would be never his, he was expected to look for his chances in life elswhere, after he served his conscription duty. Learning to read and write in the army, he turned into voracious reader, but his clumsy handwriting would be his source of embarasment for his entire life. The war exposed to him the deadly the incompetence of the Tzarist army, which he barely survived, rising to the rank of feldwebel, as attrition took the toll on the regiment. The fact that army still used German ranks, three years into war was not lost on him. The loss of war, demobilization and general anarchy in Russia made him bitter and cynical. He survived these years doing whatever odd job he could find and petty crime, dreaming of somehow earning enough for a piece of land of his own, but unlike so many of his down on the luck compatriots, he preferred reading (especially history books) to drowning his sorrows in alcohol. Library card was cheaper than vodka bottle afterall.
Then one day he got paid to take part in breaking up a PNOR meeting in Petrograd, but looking at drunk ruffians he was supposed to join and their alerted and sober counterparts, he decided that he wanted no part of yet another painful defeat. Soon enough he was part of the PNOR protection group, finding again comradeship he missed since his demobilization.
Name: Grigory Shorin
Gender: Male
Age: born October 14th 1892
Birthplace: Mishutino (village between Yaroslav and Vologda
Occupation: peasant, soldier (1913-1917), lumpenproletariat
Political views: Grigory never held any strong political views, except the need for agrarian reform, but he was swept up by the mass movement of disgruntled soldiers in 1917, however he grew disillusioned by the revolutionary government, whom he considered no lesser bunglers than the tzarist predecessers. Feeling used, he was soured on the politics in general, until he started running errands for PNOR.
Background: Born as eight of fourteen children in poor peasant family, Grigory's outlook in life was poor. Doing farm work on land that would be never his, he was expected to look for his chances in life elswhere, after he served his conscription duty. Learning to read and write in the army, he turned into voracious reader, but his clumsy handwriting would be his source of embarasment for his entire life. The war exposed to him the deadly the incompetence of the Tzarist army, which he barely survived, rising to the rank of feldwebel, as attrition took the toll on the regiment. The fact that army still used German ranks, three years into war was not lost on him. The loss of war, demobilization and general anarchy in Russia made him bitter and cynical. He survived these years doing whatever odd job he could find and petty crime, dreaming of somehow earning enough for a piece of land of his own, but unlike so many of his down on the luck compatriots, he preferred reading (especially history books) to drowning his sorrows in alcohol. Library card was cheaper than vodka bottle afterall.
Then one day he got paid to take part in breaking up a PNOR meeting in Petrograd, but looking at drunk ruffians he was supposed to join and their alerted and sober counterparts, he decided that he wanted no part of yet another painful defeat. Soon enough he was part of the PNOR protection group, finding again comradeship he missed since his demobilization.