Blue Skies in Camelot: An Alternate 60's and Beyond

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by President_Lincoln, Nov 29, 2017.

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  1. IntellectuallyHonestRhino Well-Known Member

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    Of course. You can't run for President in '68 when you're Goldwater's VP in '72 ;).
     
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  3. King_Arthur The Once and Present King

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    I'm not sure @Major Major. It is not a timeline I have come across and I just made that list off the top of my head.
     
  4. Major Major Tired Old Man

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    At the party at the end of The Number of the Beast, someone from one time-line (one of the problems with this scene is that all the characters sound exactly alike) lists the presidents in his time line and after Eisenhower there are six "Kennedy"s one after another.

    After writing the post I quoted I realized that it's not Maureen, since George Patton was president in that one. (!)
     
  5. thatsbunkers Active Member

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    The US attempted to assassinate Castro hundreds of times I doubt just a few more would do the trick
     
  6. Kaiser Julius Well-Known Member

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    Then again, someone somewhere does get struck by lightning eventually...
     
  7. President_Lincoln The Great Emancipator

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    He's currently working as a volunteer on Richard Nixon's campaign.
     
  8. IntellectuallyHonestRhino Well-Known Member

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    So I definately know now who not to support.



    (For the ultimate dystopia have John Derbyshire become the British PM in 2010. Actually don’t. That’s too much of a dystopia.)
     
  9. President_Lincoln The Great Emancipator

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    Thank you so much nubbie44! :D I'm so honored to hear you say all of this.

    Thank you so much! :) You flatter me greatly, sir.

    All I can say to both of you is welcome aboard and I hope that I can keep it up for you!
     
  10. President_Lincoln The Great Emancipator

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    An excellent question, Nerdman! :D Would you guys be interested in me covering Cuba in the next Foreign Affairs update outside of the Rhodesian War?
     
  11. Nerdman3000 Well-Known Member

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    Sure! Absolutely.
     
  12. King_Arthur The Once and Present King

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    Also, can you say where all (future) OTL Presidents are at this point in time. It may seem unnessecary, but it would be interesting to see where they are and how they develop (especially Clinton, Bush, Trump and Obama).
     
  13. President_Lincoln The Great Emancipator

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    Awesome! :) I'll add them to the list.

    Nixon - Running for the Republican nomination for President, as per OTL in '68.
    Ford - Currently serving as House Minority Leader for the Republicans
    Carter - After serving out a four year term in the Georgia State Senate, he has decided to take a break from politics to run his family's peanut farm.
    Reagan - Currently serving as Governor of California (Elected in '66)
    Bush Sr. - Currently serving as the Junior United States Senator from Texas (Originally elected in '64)
    Clinton - Currently living in Detroit as a session musician.
    Bush Jr. - Serving in the Texas Air National Guard as a test pilot
    Obama - Living with his mother and step-father in Indonesia.
    Trump - Has just begun working at Elizabeth Trump & Son, his father's real estate company.
     
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    Also remember that they controlled many Southern legislators until 2010.
     
  15. King_Arthur The Once and Present King

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    My Predictions:
    Nixon - Loses the primaries and becomes a Hoover-type advocate for Conservative causes. Maybe returns to CA State politics.

    Ford - With no Watergate, he retires from Congress in '77.

    Carter - With no Watergate remains a nobody.

    Reagan - Gets nominated as President, not sure if he wins. A RFK v Reagan 1976 after 2 terms of Romney would be very interesting.

    Bush - Definitely becomes a somebody. Senate Majority Leader perhaps? Potentially President in the '80s or turns into a Robert Taft figure as a Conservative in a Centrist Party.

    Clinton - Becomes a musician. Maybe goes into Michigan State Politics. Him marrying Hillary is ASB in my opinion.

    Bush 2 - Depends on what happens to his father. Probably becomes a force in Texas State Politics.

    Obama - I am really not sure at this point.

    Trump - I could see him as a Bloomberg style centrist NYC mayor. Him being Mayor during a 9/11 equivalent would be interesting.
     
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  16. President_Lincoln The Great Emancipator

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    Interesting predictions! :) I definitely think predicting where Barack Obama might turn up could be hard, seeing as he's only seven as of 1968. Stay tuned. ;)
     
  17. King_Arthur The Once and Present King

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    Trump was a life long Democrat until 2011 which could be interesting. I don't think Nixon, Ford, Carter or Clinton have a shot at the Presidency ITTL. W Bush and Obama are super doubtful IMO. It could look like this:
    George W. Romney (R) 1969-1977
    Robert F. Kennedy (D) 1977-1985
    George HW. Bush (R) 1985-1993
    Hillary Rodham (R) 1993-1997
    Al Gore or Joe Biden (D) 1997-2005
     
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  18. King_Arthur The Once and Present King

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    But Al Gore's case is really interesting. In OTL his father was not re-elected in 1970, despite Al Jr going to Vietnam to help his numbers. With no Vietnam War and the ACP the Tennessee Senate Election in 1970 will be extremely important. Also, Al Sr despite fillibustering against the Civil Rights Act didn't sign the Southern Manifesto, so is not as racism as a typical Dixiecrat.
     
  19. President_Lincoln The Great Emancipator

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    A very interesting case indeed. :) Al Sr is quite unlikely to join the ACP, I would imagine.
     
  20. King_Arthur The Once and Present King

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    Bill is a Southern Baptist, as is MLK and Falwell. I could see a TL where in 92 or 96 Gore is a bit like GWB in 2000 (youngish politician and son of a successful politician), and Bill is Mayor of Detroit or somewhat. If MLK survives, a Gore-Clinton MLK endorsed ticket in 96 after 12 years of Bush and Rodham will be pretty powerful.
     
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