As of now, Oliver Stone is directing JFK, a biopic celebrating the former President's life in 1986, the year after JFK passes away ITTL. In that film, he is played by Warren Beatty, who was "hand-picked" by First Lady Jackie Kennedy for the role.I think some good rules for how the Blue Skies in Camelot Expanded Universe would be similar to What Madness Is This? in the sense that the stories/articles are not yet canon unless referenced in the main storyline or you the creator threadmark it. Any posts beyond the timeframe of the universe must not interfere with the established canon. Since you are now changing 3. and probably 4., 2. should be altered to fit closely with what would still happen even if the circumstances were altered when and if there is a reboot version of the timeline. I also found some of the Manson Family deaths to be too fantastical and I'd just erase some of it like Streisand and Trudeau while I would keep others. Anyway, what was the inspiration for you to do this timeline, a book, a movie or something else entirely.1. That's great! Thank you very much for your interest. I apologize for not responding to your PM sooner. As I mentioned in my "homecoming" post, I have been less active on the site than I would like lately. To avoid further procrastination, please allow me to answer you directly on the matter here. While I welcome supplemental materials to the timeline (both @Andrew Boyd and @QTXAdsy have written lovely supplemental pieces already), I ask that everyone who do so please keep their work as close to the current status quo of the primary TL as possible. Given that TTL is currently only covering the years 1962 - 1978, I don't think it would be appropriate yet to cover things like the Star Wars prequels. Again, as far as TTL is concerned, the prequels may not happen. Or, if they do, they may be completely different from what they are IOTL. I'm sorry if this response sounds harsh. I do not mean it to, I assure you. But I do see all of your requests for me to open the floodgates and create an "expanded universe" for this TL. Don't worry. I see them. I hold back on doing so because I am still struggling to get my mind back in order. I want to put my best foot forward when it comes to TTL. I think you all deserve nothing less. As such, I want to get all of the material on my end in order before I begin collaborating with other authors on additional material. I hope this makes sense.
2. Fair enough on Mifune's daughter.
3. Again, this is a solid point. I will implement this change. Thank you for bringing it up.
4. You may be right about this as well. I apologize if I have stretched verisimilitude too far in the name of progress.
Thank you for all you contribute to this TL. If you all want me to create such a thread so you and other users can post non-canonical materials like that (which then would ultimately get my approval to be canon), I don't see any harm in that. Thank you again for the suggestions regarding Star Wars and the Manson Murders. I'll take the latter matter into consideration for the next round of retcons (not guaranteeing I will change them, but I will consider it), but I believe I'm standing firm about the casting of Star Wars. If you wish to discuss things further, please message me directly. I don't want to seem like we're having an argument in the thread, going back and forth on what is ultimately, a judgement call on my part. Well Napoleon53 basically created the Expanded Universe thread himself so I suggest doing the same thing with your universe. There's also A More Perfect Union which is semi-utopian timeline just like Blue Skies in Camelot and it has an expanded universe of its own though somewhat inactive.I would absolutely love to hear all of your ideas @historybuff!
I'm not overly familiar with the EU for What Madness Is This? But something along those lines sounds reasonable to me.
I think reading An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy by Robert Dallek was a big inspiration to me, as was being a huge fan of Marilyn Monroe's films since I was young. I used to watch them with my grandparents on visits to their house and laugh myself silly. At first, JFK's survival and Marilyn Monroe's survival were two distinct TL ideas in my mind. But since the PODs were so close (and the two figures involved were so famously, or infamously, linked), I got the idea to combine the two and try to make a combination pop culture and political timeline out of it.
1. That's great! Thank you very much for your interest. I apologize for not responding to your PM sooner. As I mentioned in my "homecoming" post, I have been less active on the site than I would like lately. To avoid further procrastination, please allow me to answer you directly on the matter here. While I welcome supplemental materials to the timeline (both @Andrew Boyd and @QTXAdsy have written lovely supplemental pieces already), I ask that everyone who do so please keep their work as close to the current status quo of the primary TL as possible. Given that TTL is currently only covering the years 1962 - 1978, I don't think it would be appropriate yet to cover things like the Star Wars prequels. Again, as far as TTL is concerned, the prequels may not happen. Or, if they do, they may be completely different from what they are IOTL. I'm sorry if this response sounds harsh. I do not mean it to, I assure you. But I do see all of your requests for me to open the floodgates and create an "expanded universe" for this TL. Don't worry. I see them. I hold back on doing so because I am still struggling to get my mind back in order. I want to put my best foot forward when it comes to TTL. I think you all deserve nothing less. As such, I want to get all of the material on my end in order before I begin collaborating with other authors on additional material. I hope this makes sense.
2. Fair enough on Mifune's daughter.
3. Again, this is a solid point. I will implement this change. Thank you for bringing it up.
4. You may be right about this as well. I apologize if I have stretched verisimilitude too far in the name of progress.
Even an agent or friend might not similarly convince Mifune to be Obi-Wan even if Lucas was present based on the details we do know from his daughter. Same goes for Welles since Lucas didn't want him to overshadow Darth Vader and would have rejected him even with the circumstances changed.
For now, it will stay as Mr. President Lincoln has stated for the former. But probably for logical reasons I do think they need to be changed to how things would have still gone like OTL especially if there is a reboot.
That's exactly why he never would accept the role even in an alternate timeline. Even after learning more about the lore of Star Wars when he talked to Lucas he was still reluctant to join the franchise as noted in BSiC.
Yup, coupled with the fact that he thought that Star Wars would just cheapen the samurai genre and was still reluctant to take on the role even after speaking with Lucas in the BSiC universe. He only really got cast due to his daughter which is a research error since she wasn't born yet when A New Hope came out. I don't want to repeat things again but @President_Lincoln as @Rickshaw points out Mifune didn't speak English and already had terrible health thus it would stop him from being cast as Obi-Wan Kenobi and Alec Guinness would still take on the role even in an alternate 1960s and 1970s.
Actually in his personal diary and interviews his views were more akin to silly but fun. He didn’t HATE it until people started focusing on that alone. In any case Guinness was wrong since it is a good story
