Blue Skies in Camelot: An Alternate 60's and Beyond

How have the butterflies affected Roger Delgado's life? I hope that about a decade of butterflies between the start of this timeline and his death would be enough to prevent him from dying in a car crash in Turkey.
 
Che Guevara - A firm believer in the international revolution, Guevara was never captured or killed by the CIA ITTL, and thus lives to act as a revolutionary soldier in advisor in the Angolan Civil War on the side of the Marxist Militias.
Hopefully this misstep by the CIA is corrected soon, He was a murderous SOB who needs to get by hunted down.Also amusing he's trying again in Africa,considering how Racist he was towards Africans contributed to his ignominy in the congo
 
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Hi Mr President I was wondering what Roy Cohn is up to in TTL?
Also after President Romney was killed were Americans afraid of it being part a plot by the Soviet Union due to the threats and fears of the "Red Menace"?
 
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Hi Mr President I was wondering what Roy Cohn is up to in TTL?
Also after President Romney was killed were Americans afraid of it being part a plot by the Soviet Union due to the threats and fears of the "Red Menace"?
that over-the-top line of thinking died with the downfall of McCarthy, so it wouldn't be very widespread
 
To be fair, before 9/11 conservative Christians and Muslims in America identified with each other to an extent (and that's all I'm saying lest we get into Chat territory)

And if you don't mind me asking again @President_Lincoln how is Oscar Romero doing? His life will likely be very different given America isn't supporting anti-communist authoritarian regimes to the extent of OTL.

I don't mind at all! :) As per OTL, Romero is on his way to becoming Archbishop of San Salvador in 1977. As you mention, the Kennedy Doctrine is having a real tangible effect on Latin America in general, including Romero's ministry. With a U.S. that isn't actively supporting anti-communist authoritarian regimes in the region, much of Latin America, include El Salvador, is seeing a push toward political and economic liberalization, as well as increased popularity for social democracy. The Alliance for Progress and the great success it has had in modernizing the region has made "Liberation Theology" a relatively moot point, although most Catholic priests support progressive government and increased economic aid for the poor.

Hi Mr President I was wondering what Roy Cohn is up to in TTL?
Also after President Romney was killed were Americans afraid of it being part a plot by the Soviet Union due to the threats and fears of the "Red Menace"?

As @Pokemon Master has pointed out, all but the most extreme conspiracy theorists do not believe that President Romney's death had anything to do with the Soviet Union. A popular historical misconception among the uninformed ITTL however could be that Arthur Bremmer may have also acted out of prejudice against the President's Mormon faith.

Roy Cohn has been making a killing as a high profile New York City lawyer, similar to his path IOTL. Here too, he has represented Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch, and other less than reputable businessmen. While Cohn failed to prevent Trump's defeat in the 1973 lawsuit made against him by the Justice Department and Attorney General Brooke for violating the 1968 Civil Rights Act, Cohn continues to represent Trump, and has also helped him make political connections with operatives such as the "bomb thrower" Roger Stone. After a defeat for a U.S. Senate seat as an independent Conservative in 1968 to Republican incumbent Jacob K Javits and eventual Democratic victor Ramsey Clark, Cohn has mostly given up any hopes of his own in electoral politics, though he remains active in other candidates' affairs. He supports Congresswoman Schlafly (R - IL) in her primary challenge of President Bush, and hopes to connect Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, and Lee Atwater with a future candidate whom they can take all the way to the Oval Office at some point in the future. His homosexuality has also remained a zealously guarded secret. I hope that answers your question. :)

@President_Lincoln, how are things in Romania?

The Socialist Republic of Romania, under the dictatorial rule of Nicolae Ceausescu, has found a measure of stability, and has slowly been making progress with its economy. As per OTL, from 1951 to 1974, Romania's gross industrial output increased at an average rate of around 13% per year. Heavy industries have been introduced and streamlined, including machine-tool, tractor, and automotive industries; large-tonnage shipbuilding; the manufacture of electric/diesel locomotives; and the electronics and petrochemical industries, all of which are finally seeing productivity increase and net exports to the other nations of the Communist Bloc increase each year. In addition to the country's impressive oil and petroleum product wealth, the country is also known for its agriculture, chemical, and machinery exports. A new metro system, with its hub in the capital city of Bucharest has also made public transportation easier and more affordable.

Though the economy is doing better, the Ceausescu regime has also committed several human rights offenses and abuses since taking power in 1965. Concerned about his country's relatively low birth rates, the dictator instituted "aggressive" natalist policies, outlawing abortion and contraception, creating mandatory routine pregnancy and fertility tests on women, taxes on childlessness, legal discrimination against childless people. Because of these policies, more than 9,000 women would die during Ceausescu's regime on account of unsafe, illegal abortions, and while the country's population would increase by several million from a small baby boom in the late 60's, the 1970's brought overcrowded cities and especially orphanages as a result of the sudden growth. The government also continued its severe censorship policies, invasion of privacy by law enforcement and the secret police, and forced relocation of political dissidents. Generally, the people of Romania continue to suffer under authoritarian Communism, but hope exists in the form of a new generation being born, which could, ironically, prove to be the government's downfall.

What is happening to the following people?:
Gerald Ford
Stephen H. Bocchco
Paul Ryan
Ted Bundy

Gerald R. Ford - Current Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. I usually keep up with Gerry Ford in the regular updates, but let me know if you have more specific questions.

Stephen H. Bocchco? Do you mean Steven Ronald Bochco, the TV writer and producer? If so, he's currently working as a writer and story editor at Universal Studios in Hollywood.

Paul Ryan - Is a 5 year old boy growing up as a fifth generation Wisconsin-ite. Not too much to report here just yet.

Ted Bundy - A successful lawyer and political activist for the Republican Party in Washington State, Bundy ITTL is married to Stephanie Brooks, was just elected to the Washington State House of Representatives, and seems to have a vibrant political career potentially ahead of him. That being said, he has killed his first victim, and surely it is only a matter of time before his... truly evil tendencies are revealed and he is caught, especially if he keeps trying to keep himself in the public eye.
 
Thanks for responding Mr President. Of course Roy Cohn would support Congresswoman Schlafly. Even with all the changes in this timeline Cohn still represented Trump. Have you thought at all about the idea i suggested to you in our messages by the way?
 

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HI President Lincoln
What's going on with the planet of apes franchise? the series had a anti nuclear message.does it still have one in this world?

I am curious about Bobby and Ted if they launch a presidential campaign.
also. Nixons plumbers are still out there so will be a alternate Watergate??
 
So in a twist of irony, considering all the talk of ITTL live action Kevin Conroy, but OTL Kevin Conroy will be officially playing a live action version of Bruce Wayne/Batman in December’s Crisis on Infinite Earths on the CW.

Kevin Conroy To Play Bruce Wayne in Crisis on Infinite Earths

Man, I am really eager to see if he can do Batman justice on a live-action role.

EDIT: Fun fact. On 9/11, he volunteered at soup kitchens for firefighters, during which he played Batman in public.
 
Man, I am really eager to see if he can do Batman justice on a live-action role.

EDIT: Fun fact. On 9/11, he volunteered at soup kitchens for firefighters, during which he played Batman in public.
Based on what been released so far, I suspect they’re going for a Batman Beyond style Bruce for him, a more grizzled mentor/“guy the chair” style of Bats.

And I’d heard that story on one of the DVD commentaries. Apparently no one believed the staff when they were saying they had Batman in the kitchen till Conroy started doing the classic “I am the night!” through the doors, at which point everyone absolutely lost it.
 
Based on what been released so far, I suspect they’re going for a Batman Beyond style Bruce for him, a more grizzled mentor/“guy the chair” style of Bats.

And I’d heard that story on one of the DVD commentaries. Apparently no one believed the staff when they were saying they had Batman in the kitchen till Conroy started doing the classic “I am the night!” through the doors, at which point everyone absolutely lost it.

I've heard that story. Should be interesting. He has plenty of experience, having voiced him in several animated shows for years.
 
How have the butterflies affected Roger Delgado's life? I hope that about a decade of butterflies between the start of this timeline and his death would be enough to prevent him from dying in a car crash in Turkey.

The butterflies of more than a decade have, in fact, allowed Delgado to survive his OTL fatal crash. :) The original Master is still going strong as of 1976.

Thanks for responding Mr President. Of course Roy Cohn would support Congresswoman Schlafly. Even with all the changes in this timeline Cohn still represented Trump. Have you thought at all about the idea i suggested to you in our messages by the way?

No problem, @Kennedy Forever! Yes, I have, and I am very interested in it. I apologize for not responding just yet, as I have been swamped at work and wanting to take the time to give a more thorough response. Please allow me to PM you later today with details.

HI President Lincoln
What's going on with the planet of apes franchise? the series had a anti nuclear message.does it still have one in this world?

I am curious about Bobby and Ted if they launch a presidential campaign.
also. Nixons plumbers are still out there so will be a alternate Watergate??

Hi there, @insect! I hope this message finds you well. :) Please allow me to unpack and answer your questions as best as I can...

After obtaining the film rights to Planet of the Apes in the mid 1960's, film producer Arthur P. Jacobs turned to Rod Serling, Sci-Fi visionary and creator of The Twilight Zone to pen the screenplay (as per OTL). Serling's script was relatively faithful to the original novel, however it did change several key elements. As with much of his renowned work, Serling alterted the story by inserting contemporary Cold War themes; notably, Serling is responsible for the film's legendary twist ending: that the planet is actually a far future Earth, where Apes rose after mankind destroyed themselves with nuclear warfare. The film's projected cost was easily in excess of $10 Million, leading many Hollywood Studios to be quite hesitant to attach themselves to the project at first. In the wake of the success of NBC's Star Trek however, and the renewed widespread interest in Sci-Fi which came with it, Planet of the Apes managed to find a studio in Fox that was willing to foot the bill in order to bring Serling's wonderful, imaginative script to life. Charlton Heston was still persuaded to star, and the film went on to be one of the biggest successes of the year at the Box Office. Especially lauded were the film's makeup effects, for which creator John Chambers would eventually win an Honorary Oscar, and Heston's leading performance, one of the stand outs of a long and fruitful career. The film also launched a franchise which, though it would suffer from diminishing returns and never reach the acclaim and popularity of the original, nonetheless lay the groundwork for future franchise film series, such as Star Wars.

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Anything is possible! To give my own thoughts on possible future Presidential runs for Bobby/Ted ITTL...

ITTL, JFK surviving to finish out two full terms as President has left a truly monumental legacy on the Democratic Party and American History/Politics as a whole. John F. Kennedy is widely regarded to be in the same tier of President by most Democrats ITTL as FDR (compare to how OTL modern Republicans think of Ronald Reagan), a heroic, inspiring figure, whose soaring, ideal-fueled rhetoric and strong leadership piloted the United States through the golden age of the 1960's, even as he fought hard for Civil Rights, a War on Poverty, a New Frontier in Science and the arts, better access to Health Care, and a more fair economy for all at home, as well as a more democratic and diplomatic approach to foreign policy abroad. Though his reputation took a small hit at the revelation of his affairs, his more recent fidelity to Jackie and almost impeccable record as President have led most Americans and historians to forgive JFK his infidelities. Though Bobby and Ted are perhaps best equipped to inherit this magnificent legacy, each has their own issues with turning that inheritance into a Presidential bid of their own. First and foremost, with JFK surviving ITTL, his Presidency is not known as "Camelot". It was not a brief, shining moment of what could have been, it was a long, spirited fight for progress and change which took a lot of effort and made more conservative Americans uncomfortable, leading to tremendous change, but followed by the election of the more centrist George Romney in 1968.

IOTL, both Bobby and Ted were seen as figures who could bring back the "magic" of "Camelot". Our national zeitgeist longed for a return to the spirit and promise displayed by President Kennedy in those glorious years before Vietnam and the protests which would tear the country apart under Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Gerald Ford. Because JFK "saw his mission through" here, Bobby and Ted do not have that claim to fame. While both are absolutely still colossal figures in the Democratic Party, each has their own roadblocks on the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Ted has little to no interest in running for President. He's always been more of a Parliamentarian and slick deal maker than an executive leader anyhow, and besides, even without Chappaquiddick around his neck, ITTL, Ted's affair with and subsequent marriage to Sharon Tate have left a rather dim view of him to many Americans. If JFK could be forgiven his dalliances due to his performance as President, combined with his renewed affection toward Jackie, the public would not extend the same courtesy to "Slick Teddy". As for Bobby, he's faring slightly better than his younger brother in the polls, though the revelations about his early tenure as Attorney General have cost him somewhat with the minority constituencies he claims to represent and sympathize with most. The scandal also kept Bobby out of the Presidential race in '76, though if the Democrats fail to win this time around, RFK could try to run again with renewed vigor in 1980, assuming he wins his reelection bid in the Senate this year. The biggest claim RFK will need to counter if he wants to do this is that he is "Prince Bobby", heir apparent, riding off of his brother's coattails to his "anointed" seat in the White House. This is, of course, a rather long series of events which will need to line up in order for Bobby to fulfill Jack's hopes for him and become President in his own right. If the Democrats win in '76, then assume Bobby is out of the race until at least 1984. He wouldn't be too old by then (59), but by then he'll be competing with a new generation of Democrats (such as Gary Hart, Jerry Brown, and others) who will want to be making a name for themselves as well.

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Now that I think of it, @President_Lincoln, how's George Romero doing?

Quite well! Largely on the same path as OTL, Romero's 1968 classic Night of the Living Dead has still given rise to the Zombie genre in horror. Expect him to pop up from time to time in the Pop Culture updates. :)

I've got a bit of an odd update request...but something I got thinking about...what is the official status of UFO's and to an extent...Area 51 in this reality @President_Lincoln????

The official status? I'm sorry, could you explain your question in a little more detail for me? Do you mean the U.S. Government's public stance on it? The popularity of UFO conspiracy theories? Thank you. :)
 
affair with and subsequent marriage to Sharon Tate have left a rather dim view of him to many Americans. If JFK could be forgiven his dalliances due to his performance as President, combined with his renewed affection toward Jackie, the public would not extend the same courtesy to "Slick Teddy".
And I just realized something: Ted's up in November...it could be cool to see his ass Kicked out in November, possiblly by Silvio O'Conte or if we want special humiliation a primary from his own party

Also on Bobby Kennedy, not only would he have to box with the New Democrats like Gary and Brown, he'd also have to fight with the Socialists and the Christian Democrats...hed of lost his youth appeal by then and he'd have to find a way to keep his appeal to Blue Collar and minority Dems who would be targeted by both the Christian Dems and the Socialists.
 
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