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I'd like to see who he picks for his cabinet, especially Secretary of State. I'm sure he'll run McCarthy's campaign right into the ground.
 
What about Wallace and the Progressives?

What about them? :p

They helped contribute to the loss of President Truman. They won no states, of course, and will likely go down whatever path they went down OTL, unless the election of President MacArthur butterflies that away.
 
I, for one, would like to see what Dugout Doug's cabinet looks like (even with virtually no knowledge of 1950s American politics).

How possible is it to have Bradley as SecDef and Ike as SecState? :)

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I, for one, would like to see what Dugout Doug's cabinet looks like (even with virtually no knowledge of 1950s American politics).

How possible is it to have Bradley as SecDef and Ike as SecState? :)

Marc A

I might just put up a Cabinet list in the next Update now, after I consult with Kevvy. Depending. If another two or three people call for a Mac Cabinet, I definitely will show it.

As for Bradley and Eisenhower....wait and see. ;)
 
I meant he'll find a way to stop McCarthy's investigations, especially if he goes after the army.

I don't recall offhand if McCarthy went after the army OTL, so I can't say. Otherwise, you'll have to wait and see what Mac does (if he does anything) against McCarthy. ;)
 
I don't recall offhand if McCarthy went after the army OTL, so I can't say. Otherwise, you'll have to wait and see what Mac does (if he does anything) against McCarthy. ;)

McCarthy's attacks on the Army are one of the major factors which lead to his downfall in OTL; he had been largely hostile towards General Marshal as well (a fact which made Eisenhower hostile to McCarthy as well).
 
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MacArthur/White: 340 (red)
Thurmond/Wright: 106 (orange)
Truman/Barkley: 85 (blue)

On election night, the results were both unexpected, and surprising. As the Media had been predicting for months on end, Douglas MacArthur swept through Election Night, and won with a massive upset, beating out President Truman in very wide margins. What wasn't foreseen, however, was just how good of a finish Governor Thurmond would do. The Dixiecrat Nominee had taken the entirety of the Deep South away from Truman, giving him a good (if distant) second finish. Thurmond had seized on the addition of Civil Rights for Blacks in the Democratic Platform, and over time had swayed much of the Deep South to his side, thus ensuring his strong finish.​


As many pundits would say in later days and weeks, it was the Presidential Election of 1912 all over again. Just like here, in 1912 the incumbent President had been greatly hampered by disunion from a split in the Party, leading to the opposing nominee to be elected President.​

True, General MacArthur didn't win by the large margins that former President Woodrow Wilson did, but it was close enough for him.​

And so, General Douglas MacArthur was now President-elect Douglas MacArthur. Within a few months' time, he'd be officially sworn in, and become the 34th President of the United States of America.​


Why would Thurmond have such a stronger showing then in OTL? You have Truman losing 19 states that he won in the otl 48 election. Thurmond only got small fractions of the vote in the states you added to his column such as 9 percent in North Carolina and 10 percent in Virginia. They had the Civil Rights amendment in otl so why the big switch toward Thurmond? Thurmond only recieved two percent of the vote in otl, only slightly more then Wallace, and less then ten percent of the electoral votes, how can you get him second place over Truman? Truman also had double digit leads over Dewey in Rhode Island, Massachussetts, and Minnesota.

This website analysis past presidential election results. http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1948
 
McCarthy's attacks on the Army are one of the major factors which lead to his downfall in OTL; he had been largely hostile towards General Marshal as well (a fact which made Eisenhower hostile to McCarthy as well).

Oh? Intriguing. I shall definitely keep that in mind when McCarthy stirs up his trouble.

Why would Thurmond have such a stronger showing then in OTL? You have Truman losing 19 states that he won in the otl 48 election. Thurmond only got small fractions of the vote in the states you added to his column such as 9 percent in North Carolina and 10 percent in Virginia. They had the Civil Rights amendment in otl so why the big switch toward Thurmond? Thurmond only received two percent of the vote in otl, only slightly more then Wallace, and less then ten percent of the electoral votes, how can you get him second place over Truman? Truman also had double digit leads over Dewey in Rhode Island, Massachussetts, and Minnesota.

This website analysis past presidential election results. http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1948

In defense of President-elect MacArthur, I say that any war hero would do much better than Truman in the election of 1948. Not to mention MacArthur is not Dewey, and the change of candidates can and has changed the outcomes of several states in the election.

As for Thurmond, there have been many small butterflies done to achieve the desired results of this election....and more, as well be evident in the future. Besides, Thurmond campaigned more successfully in this timeline due to a variety of many reasons, and his message about States' Rights caught on in the South.

Not to mention with the fall of Truman, he'd do more poorly in the South.
 

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Moving a vote from 8% to winning a state isn't a small issue.

I will refrain from most comments, (mostly because the very idea of this T/L is making me long for death) but this is way too big of an issue to handwave.
Oh? Intriguing. I shall definitely keep that in mind when McCarthy stirs up his trouble.



In defense of President-elect MacArthur, I say that any war hero would do much better than Truman in the election of 1948. Not to mention MacArthur is not Dewey, and the change of candidates can and has changed the outcomes of several states in the election.

As for Thurmond, there have been many small butterflies done to achieve the desired results of this election....and more, as well be evident in the future. Besides, Thurmond campaigned more successfully in this timeline due to a variety of many reasons, and his message about States' Rights caught on in the South.

Not to mention with the fall of Truman, he'd do more poorly in the South.
 
Moving a vote from 8% to winning a state isn't a small issue.

I will refrain from most comments, (mostly because the very idea of this T/L is making me long for death) but this is way too big of an issue to handwave.

I take it everyone here loves MacArthur. :p

And fair enough. Honestly I just went with the map Kevvy gave me. If there's a problem with it, it ought to be brought up with him. Though if the consensus is that some states ought to go to Truman, then they shall.

But trust us on this, the Dixiecrat doing so strong national is here for a reason. A very intriguing reason. ;)
 
Oh? Intriguing. I shall definitely keep that in mind when McCarthy stirs up his trouble.



In defense of President-elect MacArthur, I say that any war hero would do much better than Truman in the election of 1948. Not to mention MacArthur is not Dewey, and the change of candidates can and has changed the outcomes of several states in the election.
A different candidate would change states where the election was close such as California but less likely to change states where Truman had a double digit lead otl.
 
Blood, Sweat, and Fire


(1948-2017: Sixty-Nine Years that Changed the World)


Part One, Chapter Six:


High Flying, Adored

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...And so it had begun. General MacArthur was now President MacArthur. While jubilation was high for MacArthur at the beginning of his Presidency, he would go on to face much in the way of struggle and adversity, in the years to come. War, internal strife, fear-mongering, and paranoia would greatly challenge President MacArthur for the next four years. Whether or not he handled these matters well is a subject of debate amongst many MacArthur Scholars, but one thing is clear: his term as the 34th President of the United States of America would help define the latter half of the 20th Century, for better or for worse...”

Roger Lunge, author of, President MacArthur: The Man, The Myth, The Legend (circa 1984)


...I, for one, have high hopes for President MacArthur. At the very least, he'll be tough on Communism...”

A quote attributed to actor Ronald Reagan


I, Douglas MacArthur, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will do my best of my Ability to Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God.”

On January 20th, 1949, Douglas MacArthur was sworn in before an enthusiastic crowd of supporters, and became the 34th President of the United States of America. Once officially in Office, President MacArthur went about making his own unique mark on history. In regards to his Cabinet, President MacArthur's nominees all passed brief inspection by the Republican controlled Congress, and were sworn in soon thereafter.​

For his Secretary of State, President MacArthur decided to choose Harold Stassen, former Governor of Minnesota, and a former contender for the Presidency just a year earlier. It was a choice approved by nearly all, and one Stassen himself was most pleased with. Stassen was instrumental in seeing MacArthur win the GOP Nomination, and was now being rewarded for his actions.

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For his Secretary of the Treasury, President MacArthur nominated Robert B. Anderson, a capable young businessman and administrator. Anderson had been an avid campaigner for MacArthur in Texas, during the General Election. While that had ultimately proved futile, President MacArthur was impressed enough to reward Mister Anderson for his service.

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For his Attorney General, President MacArthur made a more controversial choice and nominated Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin. While McCarthy was new to the Senate, and thus far had relatively little experience, he had been a successful attorney. Not to mention he had campaigned for President MacArthur quite vigorously in the Wisconsin Primaries nearly a year ago, and Mac had decided to pay him a favor, much like he had by making Philip La Follette the Assistant to the President (which would later be renamed as White House Chief of Staff in 1961). Due to his likable nature and the fact he wasn't (yet) all that controversial, McCarthy passed through Congress quite easily.

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And for his Secretary of Defense, President MacArthur nominated a former colleague: General George S. Patton. General Patton, like former Generals MacArthur and Eisenhower, was one of the popular generals of the American side of World War Two, and thus far has been the most popular addition to President MacArthur's Cabinet. Like the men before him, General Patton sped through his confirmation hearings into his office.

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There were more appointments, of course, for the MacArthur Cabinet. But these four nominations were the most prominent and most important for the new President.​

The rest of the first month of Mac's term as President passed by in a flash. As one of his first acts as President, MacArthur announced that (with the approval of the South Korean government) the reduction of troops in South Korea would stop, and that a permanent base would be established there. President MacArthur, in a speech to Congress, proclaimed that,​

Asia is the future battleground for the War against Communism. It is an area of the world most susceptible to the Red Menace, and it is there where we should go about setting our soldiers. Short of war, Stalin cannot expand his influence further within Western Europe. However, with his ally Mao and the Chinese Communists, they can overtake Asia if we don't take preventative measures.”

Not long after this, it seemed that President MacArthur's prediction was coming true, as Communist forces marched into Beijing. It was another troubling development that made clear more and more that the KMT was losing the Chinese Civil War against Mao and his Commie soldiers.​

China being lost to Mao was a worrying thought for President MacArthur, as a Communist China would no doubt become a powerhouse in Asia, and would threaten their interests in Japan and South Korea. If this was to be prevented, the KMT would need help, and soon...
 
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