Black allies of Nazi Germany in a cold war

South Africa did supply and fight along side friendly black forces like unita and renamo

Yes. And this is the kind of situation I'm envisioning for the OTL: a theatre where there are all the parties in the fight are black, so for the Nazis it's simply a question of which one is most favourable to their interests.
 
German racism ev n Nazi German doesn't look like American racism, yes the Nazi saw Blacks as sub humans, but at the same time they lacked the same antagonism toward them as was found in the American South. In fact they too large extent saw them as noble savages and didn't really see their land as fitting for German settlement. So I don't think it's impossible that the Nazi would decide to support independence movements in colonies of powers hostile to Germany.
 

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The Ethiopians were a group colonized by the Italians. No well in hell would they be declared honorary aryans, a status that not even the Italians had.
Well, Hitler's Nazi Germany was the only country in the world which provided military support to the Ethiopians during the Second Italo-Ethiopian War.
If the Axis wins World War 2 then those aren't former colonies, those are current colonies.
The OP stated that this is in an ATL Cold war between the USA and Germany where the Germans won in the east, Italy's been thrown out of Africa, and Japan lost as IOTL. Which places the regimes in all of Italy's former African colonies up for grabs, so to speak; and Ethiopia's the place where their prior actions would have already engendered the most public support (i.e, any at all). If this were also an ATL in which the Portuguese ended up on the side of the Allies, or leaned towards the USA, then the Nazis could also support the Africans in the Portuguese Colonial War, as well as any anti-colonial black independence movements against the remaining British colonies.
 
A lot of Nazi propaganda against Britain played "anti-colonial" chords: look at fat greedy John Bull, oppressor and exploiter of Indians, Arabs, and black people in Africa (as well as the Irish and the Boers, of course).

Nazi Germany would probably be willing to arm and supply any group that is fighting against British (and/or French and/or American) rule (and/or tutelage) in Africa. They'd see no reason not to undermine the enemy if the opportunity presents itself. Whether the opportunity would actually present itself; who would present it; and whether the Nazis would be able to give more than symbolic assistance - that's another set of questions.
 
I'd not underestimate the Nazis ability to be hypocritical about their own sick ideology, when it suited them
But will it suit them in the first place? I think that depends on the state of the colonial Empires once peace is signed. Mostly the French and Belgian Congo.
If all or most pre-war French African colonies are under the Vichy gouvernment, which is now recognized as the legitimate French gouvernment by the UK, US, etc then Germany will become the "Arsenal of Colonialism" so to speak. Support France and eventually Spain and Portugal as well in holding onto their Colonies, while seeking friendly relations perhaps with the Arabs, but never Africans.
If on the other hand most pre-war French Colonies are under control of the Free French Exiles and/or the UK, that's another matter. In that case I think they'd eventually find some way to rationalize arming anti-British independence movements and then getting 3rd world kleptocrats to align themselves with them.
Remember that the Japanese were also racist jerks to non-Japanese Asians, yet that didn't stop them from playing the anti-colonialism card in public.
 
You could take white folks and turn Slavs in to Aryans by adoption when young or "honorary" and similar maneuvers. No way, no how would the Nazis treat Africans well, Ethiopians or any other ones. While there were certain aspects of the Muslims/Arabs had admired, and also a Karl May view of Native Americans, and the Japanese were "honorary Aryans" the reality was that non-whites could be officially tolerated if need be, but were Untermenschen. Change this and you turn Nazi philosophy and ideology upside down.

If anything, the Nazis were very inconsistent regarding racial polices and routinely modified their ideaology to suit the situation. For example, the initial ideaology was that only Germans, Dutch and Nordics could ever possibly be "aryans".

Then, through the pre war and war period, Japanese, French, Spaniards, Croats, some Indians (well, the pro German ones), pro German eastern Slavs, pro German Arabs, pro German Greeks etc. were all granted either full aryan or honorary aryan status.

In short, for the Nazis, "aryan" status depended their needs at the moment and included the idea that aryans / aryanism were both an ethnic group and a mystical state of mind that existed in all warrior groups. Thus pro German cossacks, were honorary aryans.

In a German victory, my bet is that the Germans would have no trouble declaring after uhmmm..... "exhausting historical research" that say, select groups of Tanzanians and Togolese (both former colonies and potential allies) had "aryan states of mind" and were thus qualified to be honorary aryans. Ditto for Zulus.
 
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IMHO there are two questions here: would the Nazis use African/Black movements as allies, would they declare them "Aryans". As far as the former goes, of course they would use anyone and anything that would advance their agenda. For the latter, probably not, but even if they did they would have zero compunction about throwing them under the bus, enslaving or exterminating them if and when that best suited their interests.
 
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