Black allies of Nazi Germany in a cold war

Cold war between USA and Germany that won in the east and Italy is thrown out of Africa and japan loses as Otl

Which Groups in Sub Saharan Africa would ally with Germany besides the white minority states.

I was thinking possibly Somailia,Tutsis in either rwanda and burundi and Americo-Liberians, Would Any of these groups or other groups ally with the Germans
 
None because Nazi Germans isn't equivelant to the Soviet Union. They wouldn't seek alliances with Africans, at best they would ally with Portugal and a nationalist South Africa.

Most likely however they would leave the continent alone, content to focus on General Plan Ost.
 
A victorious reich would only really seem a good potential power to emulate for white supremacists in Africa, most independance movements were left wing in nature.
 
You could take white folks and turn Slavs in to Aryans by adoption when young or "honorary" and similar maneuvers. No way, no how would the Nazis treat Africans well, Ethiopians or any other ones. While there were certain aspects of the Muslims/Arabs had admired, and also a Karl May view of Native Americans, and the Japanese were "honorary Aryans" the reality was that non-whites could be officially tolerated if need be, but were Untermenschen. Change this and you turn Nazi philosophy and ideology upside down.
 
Maybe less in the way of true "Allies" and more along the lines of "Folks we'll send guns to via False Flag because they're killing people we also want dead". Hell maybe they'd pull an "Iran/Iraq" approach and just arm everyone they can who'll be shooting at their enemies or at other untermensch. In the hypothetical that they've at least conquered France and significant chunks of the Soviet Union they'll have mountains of obsolete weapons to throw around.
 
Maybe less in the way of true "Allies" and more along the lines of "Folks we'll send guns to via False Flag because they're killing people we also want dead". Hell maybe they'd pull an "Iran/Iraq" approach and just arm everyone they can who'll be shooting at their enemies or at other untermensch. In the hypothetical that they've at least conquered France and significant chunks of the Soviet Union they'll have mountains of obsolete weapons to throw around.
The Ethiopians were a group colonized by the Italians. No well in hell would they be declared honorary aryans, a status that not even the Italians had.
 
Maybe less in the way of true "Allies" and more along the lines of "Folks we'll send guns to via False Flag because they're killing people we also want dead". Hell maybe they'd pull an "Iran/Iraq" approach and just arm everyone they can who'll be shooting at their enemies or at other untermensch. In the hypothetical that they've at least conquered France and significant chunks of the Soviet Union they'll have mountains of obsolete weapons to throw around.
Just because they have massive amounts of obselete firearms doesn't mean they'll throw them around and arm people they see as filth, including people they would actually be a war with. If they want to take back French colonial holdings then they could do it through invading the territory directly or trying to find army officials who would agree to side with the Germans.
 
The Ethiopians were a group colonized by the Italians. No well in hell would they be declared honorary aryans, a status that not even the Italians had.
Couldn't they just declare the Ethiopians and Somalians to be superior to other blacks or a different race like how other Europeans thought of them Rather than declaring them honorary Aryans
 
In the hypothetical that they've at least conquered France and significant chunks of the Soviet Union they'll have mountains of obsolete weapons to throw around.

OTL Nazi Germany did conquer France and occupied quite decent chunks of the SU and didn't get enough loot to decently equip their European allies/puppets. Even German units themselves had supply shortages. So even if they manage to expand up to the Urals they won't have 'mountains of stuff' to throw around.
Heck, with such an extended occupation area their logistic chains would lengthen as well, they need more occupation forces and there would be more territories in which partisan activity needs to be suppressed. They might even end up with actually less stuff being freely available.
 
Couldn't they just declare the Ethiopians and Somalians to be superior to other blacks or a different race like how other Europeans thought of them Rather than declaring them honorary Aryans
Without pissing off their closest allies for no reason?

No they could not.
 
The OTL Nazis made at least one attempt at claiming to be appaled by anti-black racism in the US, but more in a "Look at the violent and crazy things those vulgar Americans do" sort of a way, rather than as a statement of principle. And even then, the artist couldn't resist dehumanizing the blacks as well.

That said, I think you COULD see the Nazis allying with black groups in a Cold War, but only under very strict conditions. Which would be that the Nazis are fighting against some anti-Nazi group, and the only people in the region also fighting against that group happen to be black.

So for example, the Nazis get ahold of Britain's Caribbean colonies as part of some postwar settlement, and most of the whites move back to the UK. There's an anti-Nazi coup by left-wing blacks, and the Nazis ship weapons to the black opponents of that regime.

One doubts that the Nazis would support blacks, even right-wing blacks, against a white regime, though I suppose if there were some country that was controlled by extreme left-wing whites, and the only group against them were black(even if not representing a majority of blacks), realpolitik might win out against racial solidarity.
 
And FWIW, in OTL there was at least one attempt by NEO-Nazis to ally with a black politician and make him the leader of a country. It would have involved tossing out another black leader.

Operation Red Dog

Obviously, it didn't work out. But it does show that, at least in the real world, people beholden to the Nazi ideology weren't totally averse to collaboration with ideologically correct black leadership.
 
And FWIW, in OTL there was at least one attempt by NEO-Nazis to ally with a black politician and make him the leader of a country. It would have involved tossing out another black leader.

Operation Red Dog

Obviously, it didn't work out. But it does show that, at least in the real world, people beholden to the Nazi ideology weren't totally averse to collaboration with ideologically correct black leadership.
Those were people beholden to Neo-Nazi idealology but those wearnt Nazis they were Neo-Nazis. Nazi Germany would ally themselves with colonial powers to maintain power in Africa, allying with native people would only harm there relations with white minority states like South Africa.
 
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