Bill to the Gore to the Hillary to the Obama A collaboration tl

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Make sure the Republicans don't control Congress and the GOP will die out

No random things like Donald Trump took over the government in a coup in 1999 and became a dictator
 
A tall task, but one I'll try. Also, the GOP isn't dying away. Too many people have very legitimate limited-government philosophy that will occupy a space in American politics even if we do a Demo-wank.

NBC Today Show (October 30, 1994)
"Sorry, I'm going to have to interrupt you, Bryant, we're receiving unconfirmed reports that's there has been a large explosion in Oklomaha City. Witnesses report that a large portion of the Alfred P. Murray Federal Building has been torn away. [Courric sees video on desk monitor] Oh my god..."

October 30, 1994
President Clinton gives a press conference later that morning: "the bombing at Oklahoma City was an attack on innocent children, and defenseless citizens. It was an act of cowardess, and it was evil. The United States will not tolerate it. I will not allow this country to be intimidated by evil cowards."

November 1, 1994
Within 48 hours, the FBI identifies and arrests Timothy McViegh, an anti-government extremist.

November 2, 1994
President Clinton gives poignant remarks at the Oklahoma City bombing memorial service, "You have lost too much. But you have not lost everything, and you have certainly not lost America."

November 7, 1994
Boosted by a higher approval rating for the President, Democrats maintain control of the House and Senate, losing only 18 seats in the 1994 midterms. As short as one week before, some analysts had predicted as many as 50 seats going towards the GOP.
 
Frankly, I'm tempted to call "ASB" on this -- I just don't see 4 successive Democratic presidents as possible (especially those you have listed -- very specific circumstances brought them to the national stage).

However, here area ideas:

  • Bill Clinton resigns/is impeached during his second term. We get President Gore. Similar to OTL, moderates disapprove of the GOP witch hunt and the Clinton name is not fully tarnished (allowing HRC to pursue a political career -- as a Senator from NY, maybe not, but something on the national statge). 9/11 might be butterflied, but a GOP two-term President still happens (with considerable baggage going into '08... and perhaps the Crash still happens, if macro/microeconomic conditions + regulatory policy remain largely the same). HRC runs for President in '08, Obama emerges too (as he did OTL -- again, this is far out, given how exceptional his rapid rise to the national stage was!), doesn't do as well, and we end up with a Clinton-Obama ticket that wins the election. Clinton is assassinated sometime during her first term, we end up with President Obama (or Clinton is re-elected twice and we end up with Obama in 2016 as a one-term President).
  • More outlandish, more interesting: the American two-party system begins to fracture in the '90s. Ross Perot runs with party affiliation in '92, a visible third party appears on the regional and national stage in the '90s, with other smaller regional parties appearing as well. You have your Presidents notes in the OP elected, just not as Democrats.
 

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Frankly, I'm tempted to call "ASB" on this -- I just don't see 4 successive Democratic presidents as possible (especially those you have listed -- very specific circumstances brought them to the national stage).

However, here area ideas:

  • Bill Clinton resigns/is impeached during his second term. We get President Gore. Similar to OTL, moderates disapprove of the GOP witch hunt and the Clinton name is not fully tarnished (allowing HRC to pursue a political career -- as a Senator from NY, maybe not, but something on the national statge). 9/11 might be butterflied, but a GOP two-term President still happens (with considerable baggage going into '08... and perhaps the Crash still happens, if macro/microeconomic conditions + regulatory policy remain largely the same). HRC runs for President in '08, Obama emerges too (as he did OTL -- again, this is far out, given how exceptional his rapid rise to the national stage was!), doesn't do as well, and we end up with a Clinton-Obama ticket that wins the election. Clinton is assassinated sometime during her first term, we end up with President Obama (or Clinton is re-elected twice and we end up with Obama in 2016 as a one-term President).
  • More outlandish, more interesting: the American two-party system begins to fracture in the '90s. Ross Perot runs with party affiliation in '92, a visible third party appears on the regional and national stage in the '90s, with other smaller regional parties appearing as well. You have your Presidents notes in the OP elected, just not as Democrats.
The Republicans mess up and third parties continue the fight against the Demecrats
 
Have the union of economic conservatives and social conservatives dissolve. Maybe free trade v Nafta. Bill Clinton goes as of k. In 2000 a Buchanan type splits republicans along free trade/immigration type line with the America First types seizing control away from "Rinos" , free trade "moderates" etc. The democrats move away from Goldman Sachs wall street types who go to new 3rd party with those free traders kicked out of the Republican party. ..even so hard to see 4 in a row like that.
 
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