Anaxagoras
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Reasonably speaking, what is the most extensive Balkanization of North America in a CS victory TL?
Reasonably? Probably just Canada, USA, CSA and Mexico (Yucatan isn't really too crazy either).
Don't forget that in Yucatan you could have both a 'Hispanic'-controlled state (in the south-west) and a 'Mayan revival' one (in the north): That situation actually existed for a while IOTL...Most reasonably most Balkanized?
(1) The United States of America (The "North" in the ACW, including all of the former US territories in the west)
(2) The Confederate States of America (the ACW CSA minus Texas)
(3) The Republic of Texas (OTL Texas plus Indian Territory)
(4) British Canada
(5) Mexico
(6) Yucatan
(7) Russian America
A far less likey but still somewhat plausble situation based on possible trends established by CSA victory - especially increased secession movements in former USA and
(1) The United States of America (old USA excluding northern plains, New England, and possibly the Free City of New York.
(2) New England Republic
(3) Free City of New York (Why not?)
(4) Dakota Territory (British/Canadian dominated buffer area carved from the former US northern and central plains/montaine territories (the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, maybe Idaho)
(5) Deseret (gotta have this, right? Mormon dominated landlocked nation including all or most of Utah, Nevada).
(6) California Republic (name says it all)
(7) Lower California (Californian protectorate in OTL Baja Californiua)
(8) Dominion of Vancouver (OTL Oregon, Washington and BC - British dominated but independent)
(9) Dominion of North America (baslically OTL Canada minus BC)
(10) Alaskan SSR
(11) Confederate States of America (OTL CSA "core" consisting of South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi)
(12) Lousiana (largely Catholic and heavily francophone creole aristocrats have enough of CSA waspiness and leave, taking New Orleans with it.
(13) Republic of Texas (massively enlarged Lone Star Republic including all of OTL Texas, Indian Territory, Arkansas, and OTL New Mexico and Arizona.
(14) Mexico del Norte (Independent republic consisting Sonora and Chihuahua. A Texas protectorate).
(15) Mexico (OTL Mexico minus MdN and Yucatan)
(16) Yucatan (an independent British protectorate)
(17) Florida
(18) Guatemala
(19) Honduras
(20) Costa Rica
(21) Nicaragua
(22) El Salvador
(23) Dominion of British Central America (OLT Belize, Roatan Island, Mosquito Coast, and Panama - including a British operated Panama Canal)
Don't forget that in Yucatan you could have both a 'Hispanic'-controlled state (in the south-west) and a 'Mayan revival' one (in the north): That situation actually existed for a while IOTL...
An independent Mormon state of Deseret is sort of a staple of alternate history. But would its existence by all that implausible?
Actually, if the Union splits, the north will have to keep lots of troops on the csa border. This means theyre less of a threat to bna. Which, in turn, means theres less pus for confederation. Thus you could easily end up with five or more britsh dominions.
Newfoundland
Pei
nnova scotia
New brunswick
Canada
Rupertsland
Bc
Canada could even end up split into upper and lower ... ontario and quebec.
There could well be some merging, but there might not be, too.
Afraid I don't see more than 3 *Canadas (East, West and Newfoundland), simply too small of a population.
Actually, if the Union splits, the north will have to keep lots of troops on the csa border. This means theyre less of a threat to bna. Which, in turn, means theres less pus for confederation. Thus you could easily end up with five or more britsh dominions.
Newfoundland
Pei
nnova scotia
New brunswick
Canada
Rupertsland
Bc
Canada could even end up split into upper and lower ... ontario and quebec.
There could well be some merging, but there might not be, too.
I see things in an opposite fashion. In your scenario, the US maintains a large standing army and presumably keeps upgrading it. Ditto a functional ocean going navy. Even with the bulk of this large modern army stationed along the USA/CSA border, the US with its industrial capacity and growing population, would be a much more dangerous threat to British North America than it was in OTL where it basically maitained a tiny army capable only of pacifying Native American tribes. If anything, I suspect this might force union of Canada even earlier - as well as retard the move toward self-government
Honestly I've never heard of a separate Hispanic state existing at alongside the Maya one except for Mexico itself. The Republic of Yucatan was pretty much completely crushed by the Maya and they only survived the rebel onslaught by signing their sovereignty away. I just can't see two states existing in the Yucatan at once, at least not if one of them is a Yucateco-run state in a peninsula filled with Maya people.True, but want to see a Mayan revival one only (
Which why all the british colonies in the caribbean formed a single state?
Pei fought against confederation iotl for some, despite being the smallest colony. Newfoundland didnt join until after wwii.
Some level of uniting is probable, but 5 dominions would be EASY to get. 9 would be possible, but improbable.
4 is is likely a minimum, absent significannt outside pressure.