Best Time For The US To Invade Canada?

never a good time. invading canada would be like nap's or hitler's invasion of russia... too much land to fall back too... in the long run it would be a nightmare for the americans
 
I suppose taking Canada instead of money for lend-lease during 1940-41 is probably too late.

I wonder if you find a way to make Canadian leaders less interested in defending Belgium in 1914 (or in 1916 after a couple of years of mud and mustard) and start breaking away by province-sized increments. Maybe make the wobblies of the Great White North a little more successful in their public marketing. Or have an earlier invention of television--let the folks back home see Tommy Ontario getting riddled by German bullets while strung up on barbed wire.

Naw, none of this would happen.
 
I agree, also why would we even want that frozen wasteland when we can invade Mexico instead.

Because Mexico doesn't have a majority of English-speaking people that can be integrated more easily, and be more of an asset to the State. That having been said, you could still invade Jamaica instead of Canada :p
 

Eurofed

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never a good time. invading canada would be like nap's or hitler's invasion of russia... too much land to fall back too... in the long run it would be a nightmare for the americans

Ridiculous. European Russia is settled to a degree that can support retreating conventional forces and stay-behind guerrillas for thousands of KM. Canada cannot. The only area that can do that is a relatively tiny strip of inhabited territory (typically 300 Km deep at the most) alongside the US border. Conquering and occupying that is within the easy reach of any wartime US Army from 1860s onward. If the British and Canadians try to withdraw to the great empty frozen norhtern nowhere, they would be out of supplies and starve in no shoirt order.
 
Best Time For The US To Invade Canada... is night time, while the rubes are all sleeping. :rolleyes: Yeah, that's the ticket. I think most of 'em go to bed around 8:30 or 9 up there, so that gives us a good seven hours to get the job done. Once those farmers start waking up at 4 or so, the jig is up and its gets ugly--house to house--I hear most of 'em pack guns. That is, unless we trick 'em by saying please and excuse me a lot. Then they'll never be able to figure out which troops are Americans.
 
Ridiculous. European Russia is settled to a degree that can support retreating conventional forces and stay-behind guerrillas for thousands of KM. Canada cannot. The only area that can do that is a relatively tiny strip of inhabited territory (typically 300 Km deep at the most) alongside the US border. Conquering and occupying that is within the easy reach of any wartime US Army from 1860s onward. If the British and Canadians try to withdraw to the great empty frozen norhtern nowhere, they would be out of supplies and starve in no shoirt order.

You really don't know much about us or our northern communities do you? :p
 
You really don't know much about us or our northern communities do you? :p

There are only 100,000 people living in the entire three territories, even today :rolleyes: Okay, the provinces have a bit more than 300 km depth, but don't try to tell me that the vast majority of the population and industry is not close to the border.

General_Finley said:
I agree, also why would we even want that frozen wasteland when we can invade Mexico instead.
Loads and loads of natural resources. Mexico's got loads of people, so we want them too, but we can use the Canadian resources faster.
 

The Sandman

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The best time? The 1760s. After all, we invaded it that time and won.

Sure, sure, we were technically still Brits at the time. But still, successful invasion of Canada! It can be done!
 
War of 1831-1832 (The Third War of American Independence)

During 1831 the United States & Britain had a border dispute over Maine & Nova Scotia Boundaries. In OTL, it almost lead to War. I could see Alexis de Tocqueville as the author the book about the War.
 
There are only 100,000 people living in the entire three territories, even today :rolleyes: Okay, the provinces have a bit more than 300 km depth, but don't try to tell me that the vast majority of the population and industry is not close to the border.

Like I said, you really don't know much about us do you? Granted, most of our population and industry is in the south, but I guess it will take you a trip to several northern communities to shwo you what I mean. :p
 
The best time? The 1760s. After all, we invaded it that time and won.

Sure, sure, we were technically still Brits at the time. But still, successful invasion of Canada! It can be done!

Yeah. The only condition is you have to be British. ;)

Also, we were French at the time, so that explains a lot too. :p
 
Loads and loads of natural resources. Mexico's got loads of people, so we want them too, but we can use the Canadian resources faster.

Except that thanks to NAFTA and other free trade organs since the British in the 1850s, the US can just buy those resources for a mark-up much smaller than the cost of invasion, occupation, and naval war with Britain would be - its not a valid argument.
 
Actually, I would be interested in how America would subdue Canada if it was conquered in the 19th, or early 20th centur. It would be the ocnquest of a democratic society by another. Hrmm.
 
Actually, I would be interested in how America would subdue Canada if it was conquered in the 19th, or early 20th centur. It would be the ocnquest of a democratic society by another. Hrmm.


I think the motives or reason for the war are going to influence that a lot. If it's outright conquest (something not likely) only then things are going to be much more difficult than say if Canada was pulled into a conflict via mistakes by the UK or something. The lasting effects would differ, not so much the short term resentment of course. I'm guessing an underground movement much like the IRA is developed and has a long long battle with police forces over the next few decades.
 

Eurofed

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Actually, I would be interested in how America would subdue Canada if it was conquered in the 19th, or early 20th centur. It would be the ocnquest of a democratic society by another. Hrmm.

See: the Reconstruction.

I think the motives or reason for the war are going to influence that a lot. If it's outright conquest (something not likely) only then things are going to be much more difficult than say if Canada was pulled into a conflict via mistakes by the UK or something.

The ultimate outcome is not going to be that much different. Once a war with the British Empire occurs, and America wins it, it is not ever again going to allow a potentially hostile Anglophile independent entity on its borders. Besides, annexation of Canada has been a long-standing irredentist aspiration of the USA since the ARW. However, it mainly depends on Canada's reactions to the war. If it remains defiant to the bitter end, then America shall go for the Reconstruction treatement, military occupation and territorial status until the Canadians accept their newfound destiny as americans, then gradual statehood. However, if Canada sees the writing on the wall, throws Britain to the wolves, and pleads for a compromise peace, it may get a special Puerto Rico-like confederal status and autonomy in internal matters, effectively becoming a (pre-WWI) Dominion of America instead of Britain. Over several decades, peacefully progressing to acceptance of US statehood for Anglo Canadian provinces, as they become fully integrated culturally and politically, whileas Quebec may likely keep associated status for all time.

The lasting effects would differ, not so much the short term resentment of course. I'm guessing an underground movement much like the IRA is developed and has a long long battle with police forces over the next few decades.

Resentment may indeed linger for a few decades, but not longer than the lifespan of the generations that remember being subjects of the King/Queen as adults. America and Anglo Canada have none of the long-standing cultural, linguistic, and religious differences that the British and Irish have had. For all practical purposes, they are the same culture, with a few bones of contention about their political system. Quebec, however is a wholly different matter.
 
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