Best British interwar fleet?

[NOMISYRRUC]

France goes communist, British establishment shits bricks.

Because the British working class walks to the south coasts and salutes the French working class.

 

[tigercat]

Mussolini remains a Socialist and comes to power in Italy

 

[oldironside]

Because the British working class walks to the south coasts and salutes the French working class.

Like this?

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

That's too radical.

The butterflies an event like that would unleash have changed the history of the world beyond recognition by 1930 and from then onwards.

France could just as easily go Fascist which would have about the same effect. The Extreme left and right both made strong inroads in France between the wars.

 

[NOMISYRRUC]

Like this?

Very good. (I'm not being flippant.)

Is that Harvey Smith's face behind the raised arm?

No. If the British working class did make the "Two Finger Salute" to the French working class, the British establishment would sleep soundly in its collective bed that night.

 

[oldironside]

Is that Harvey Smith's face behind the raised arm?

No. If the British working class did make the "Two Finger Salute" to the French working class, the British establishment would sleep soundly in its collective bed that night.

And I have the clearest impression that they would. Like it or not, the working class was deeply patriotic.

 

[Ming777]

What about a dispute over a relatively close colony, where the need of a modernized navy are shown, like say Italy harrassing the British Mandates in the Levant and Egypt. Or the Spanish Civil war threatening to spill into Gibraltar.

Or even an early Argentinian madness to claim the Malv-er-Falklands.

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

What about a dispute over a relatively close colony, where the need of a modernized navy are shown, like say Italy harrassing the British Mandates in the Levant and Egypt. Or the Spanish Civil war threatening to spill into Gibraltar.

Or even an early Argentinian madness to claim the Malv-er-Falklands.

Perhaps Italy invades Abyssinia in 1929 or 1930 instead of 1935 killing the 1st London Naval Treaty in the process?

 

[Spencersj345.346]

Or even an early Argentinian madness to claim the Malv-er-Falklands.

Laughs in Queen Elizabeth and Revenge class battleships

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

Admirals Nelson, Rodney and Hood share their amusement.

 

[Spencersj345.346]

Admirals Nelson, Rodney and Hood share their amusement.

As do their cruiser screen, the Destroyers of the era due to their limited range and seakeeping as compared to cruisers and capital ships will probably stay home. I guess they kept the Renowns at home due to them in theory not being 12" gun proof

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

You need to keep something close to home to keep an eye on things.

 

[WaterproofPotatoes]

Do you even need a particularly potent outside threat when the Royal Navy is already the world's largest, has kept Britain safe and keeps the Empire together? An attitude of Si vis pacem, parabellum, should be enough.

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

Do you even need a particularly potent outside threat when the Royal Navy is already the world's largest, has kept Britain safe and keeps the Empire together? An attitude of Si vis pacem, parabellum, should be enough.

They've just fought and won "THE WAR TO END ALL WARS", why pay for what you've just made sure will never be needed?

 

[Dorknought]

Now that we have theLeague of Nations it needs some backbone. Admiralty takes the lead role.The Navy, inventors of the tank, decide that they were right in the first place and build their own sea mobile mechanised force based on the Royal Marines. It has its own infantry fighting vehicles, tracked artillery, armoured cars (Navy invented them too) and landing craft from special ‘treaty compliant’ 10,000 ton transports and carrier aircraft for close support because RAF has run off and are in ‘strategic bombing’ (Navy invented that too!) lala land. The RM lands on undefended coast and quickly moves to cross roads and scouts for follow on forces securing a deep penetration before the enemy can react. Great for imperial policing and League of Nations ‘peace’n up there!’ Stuff. Then the Government see that this is so much better than having an Army and independent Air Force and just puts the Navy and Marines in charge of everything.

 

[Dupplin Muir]

They've just fought and won "THE WAR TO END ALL WARS", why pay for what you've just made sure will never be needed?

That expression has been widely (and deliberately?) misunderstood. It doesn't mean 'there will be no more wars'; instead it is like saying 'this is going to be the party to end all parties' - ie a very large and spectacular affair.

 

[Dorknought]

France, is more likely than @Peg Leg Pom thinks.

The Sound Mirrors in Kent face towards Paris.

 

[b0ned0me]

The Sound Mirrors in Kent face towards Paris.

The impression I’ve always had is that the RAF desperately needed a justification for existence and so invented an existential threat from France to get it some budget. A “biplane gap” worthy of Dr Strangelove.

 

[JudgeKing]

From the 1930s Royal Navy Sanity options thread:

Good news! I found my copy of Nelson to Vanguard! It was hidden under a collectors Edition version of Diablo III.

Whilst I've not gone through it all, some advice for the RN.

Adopt chemical additives in the feed water for the boilers. This will help keep the boilers clean and reduce maintenance from roughly every 750 hours sailing to possibly around every 2000 hours sailing which was achived on USN vessels.
Such cleaning chemical additives are not some future tech, but are already in use on British powerplants, it was just not adopted by the RN because the E-in-C department said so, seemingly out of a lack of understanding about boilers.

Also look at the USN's advances in engines that came around in 1935, their destroyers engines were smaller, less top heavy and more efficient than the RN's and suffered no significant breakdowns. So investigating what the Yanks are doing and perhaps adopt some of their advances.
Also buy the USN's sealant for steam pipes, its far more efficient and effective than that used by the RN (old 4-stacker's engines and pipes leaked less than RN destroyers in WW2.) Also seek to adopt the USN's anti-fouling paint.

Improvements in the engines if based or at least influenced on USN layout and design could reduce fuel consumption. The USS Washington was noted as being 39% more efficient than KGV was in terms of fuel consumption at low speeds, and still superior at higher speeds, giving them longer endurance.

Another idea would be to standardize the secondary guns to just the 4" and 4.7" guns rather than also building 4.5" and 5.25" guns.

Building all post-WWI ship classes with electrical systems that use AC (alternating current) rather than DC (direct current) would also help as well.

 

[steamboy]

Also I found this

Its always interesting to see the loading drills.

You also see loading drills in this movie

From 37.54 to - 38.44 and oddly enough for the 'Hood' these are guns aboard the Vanguard and it was pretty much her last role before being decomissioned and scrapped.

There's also loading drills at 1.27.26 to 1.27.43, again on the Vanguard but still