Best and or most underused pods pre 1900?

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Calbertbreastpeach, Dec 16, 2018.

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  1. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    What are some of the most underused and best underused pre 1900 pods?
     
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  2. GauchoBadger Gang Weeder (in a society) Kicked

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    Alexios Komnenos dying at the Battle of Durazzo in 1081, opening up even more space for the Normans, Pechenegs, and Seljuq Turks to carve up the collapsing post-Manzikert Byzantine Empire.
    Pritviraj Chauhan, Raja of Ajmer, actively pursuing and killing Muhammad of Ghor after the First Battle of Tarain in 1191. Muslim expansion into northern India could be delayed for a long time, and Chauhan could form a Rajput confederation (later empire?) of sorts, expanding into Kashmir, eastern Afghanistan, and Balochistan.
     
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  3. SealTheRealDeal Well-Known Member

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    The medieval Catholic Church decides than the natives of Vinland deserve salvation and funds missionary activity to *North America, initiating sustained transatlantic contact centuries earlier than OTL, and at a time when Europeans don't have the technology or logistical capacity to exploit the virgin soil epidemics. By the 1500s you could have numerous advanced indigenous polities with iron working, crop rotation, animal husbandry, stone structures, and written language dominate the northeast of the continent.
     
  4. JackLumber Mildly belligerent Canuck

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    Im a big fan of the polish-saxon crisis as a pod
     
  5. Byzantine fanatic Pasha of the Rumistan beylik

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    Constantine loses at the battle of the Milvian bridge in the fourth century. Result: Christianity as we know it doesn't happen?
     
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    Louis, Dauphin of France, dying in 1765.
     
  7. Escape Zeppelin Well-Known Member

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    The Hapsburgs never getting their hands on the Spanish crown.
     
  8. cmakk1012 Well-Known Member

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    Any conquest of Constantinople not by Turks or Crusaders
     
  9. SandroPertini98 Well-Known Member

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    To begin:
    Vladimir the Saint decides to convert to Catholicism or Islam instead Ortodox Christianity.
    The Turks don't ally with Egypt and so never convert to Islam
    Teimujin dies during a skirmish as a young mongol raider and doesn't create the Mongol Empire
    Various possibilities then China Emperors, especially after Kublay Khan, convert to Islam or Christianity
    Northern Empire of Canute the Great is not divided at his death
     
  10. Zwinglian Banned

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    Christianity would still exist it just wouldn’t be in charge of the Roman Empire
     
  11. Byzantine fanatic Pasha of the Rumistan beylik

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    Tsargrad: Constantinople becomes capital of the Serbo-Bulgarian empire.
     
  12. Curtain Jerker Well-Known Member

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    Some of these are really great

    How about...Khalid ibn al-Walid never crosses paths with Muhammad and doesn't command his armies?
     
  13. Escape Zeppelin Well-Known Member

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    The Turks converting to Christianity instead of Islam would be a great POD as well. They might have married into the ERE instead of conquering it.
     
  14. cmakk1012 Well-Known Member

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    Which Turks, at what time? Because I find the nomadic Turks in Central Asia converting to Christianity very unlikely, while much later on a clan of Anatolian Turks converting to Christianity from Islam and somehow coming out on top seems more plausible.
     
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    - Surviving Indus Valley civilization (not just through migration into Ganges region).

    - Semi-Sinicized (or non-Sinicized) independent southern Chinese states (south of the Huai river).

    - Longer-lasting (and evolving) Jomon society.

    - A stable (and noticeable) New Guinea civilization.
     
  16. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    A underrated one is a mass spread importation of Camels to the USA due to a greater camel core
     
  17. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    A independent state in the Rheinland instead of it being German or French

    France not invading Spain and a more successful

    Belgium being more successful in its colonial ventures to places like Haiti Hawaii and the Philippines
     
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    What if Spain is able to crush most of its colonial revolts? What if the Ottoman Empire faced their own (Turkish) version of the French revolution?
     
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  19. AlternateEagle Well-Known Member

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    Hey, what if Lithuania became Orthodox?
     
  20. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    A more successful Mapuche could prove interesting with a native state in the Americas
     
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