Besides Japan, have other non English speaking countries be able to get their pop media into the US.

Uhhh Britain think about how much Brit culture from Doctor Who to the Tudors to Merchant Ivory is in this culture.

Iceland if it had about 100 times more people. Look at bands like Monsters and Men and others had the same proportional representation in pop culture. That would be weird.
AFAIK Britain speaks English.
 
By the way would you( and anyone else) happen to know if American live action movies are subbed or dubbed in other countries.

Here in Denmark it's subtext, EXCEPT for material aimed at preteens which is dubbed for obvious reasons.
Given that dubbing is more expensive that subtexts that probably holds for most smaller countries/languages.
Germany and France dubs most foreign material (or at least they used to, havent checked recently), so much so that John Wayne saying Hände Hoch! became a putdown about german television (which could - just - be picked up in the southern half of the country) - Italy and Spain might also dub.
 
Well, people at least now know there is such a thing as K-pop
Well, yeah. But it's not really getting anywhere as far as the US media is concerned.
I mean, J-Pop for example has a huge backer in the form of Anime but K-Pop has no such thing. Hindi-Pop goes through Bollywood. The Caribbean is Anglophone.
 
A more succesful Latin America may be able to get our telenovelas (soap operas), literature, songs and movies into mainstream American culture.
 
Well, yeah. But it's not really getting anywhere as far as the US media is concerned.
I mean, J-Pop for example has a huge backer in the form of Anime but K-Pop has no such thing. Hindi-Pop goes through Bollywood. The Caribbean is Anglophone.

Well, K-Pop has the backing of the drama industry, which has done much to fill the void in East Asian markets left by an increasingly lacklustre HK drama industry. But I do agree that trying to break into the American market, which has a far greater capacity to churn out TV dramas kind of dents that advantage, which can reduce audiences' exposure to K-Pop. US animation is so severely categorized between childrens' shows and adult comedy that anime has less problems breaking in.
 
If French/German movies use animation and a combination of dubbing, they could become popular in the US. Especially, if Disney does it. By the way would you( and anyone else) happen to know if American live action movies are subbed or dubbed in other countries, for if they are dubbed, that would allow foreign movies of stronger film industries abroad to penetrate America, but if they're subbed, and then I would like to know why Americans are generally evasive of subtitles.

Films and TV programmes are now routinely filmed and edited using computers and this permits the voice track to be separated from the film and replaced with a voice track in the local languages. In addition the technology allows the post production editors to change lip movements so the lips move in tandem with the words being spoken. This has been done with cartoons and anime for many years but it's only in recent years that this has been done with non-animated films and TV programmes. The biggest problem is that only a small number of countries have the technology, the skills and a high calibre of voice actors to pull this off so most countries stick with subtitles. The financial costs of such dubbing is also prohibitive, especially in countries with small film industries.

As the technology to dub non-English language films into English becomes more readily available and the quality of local English speaking voice actors improve more foreign movies will start entering the United States and attract larger audiences within the United States.

If this dubbing technology had existed much earlier than in our time line it is almost certain that American audiences would've been more heavily influenced by other cultures. If the talkies that were introduced from the early 1920s allowed the voice tracks to be added later it is likely that Americans could've been watching Hitler addressing the Nuremburg rallies on newsreels dubbed into English or French art films dubbed into English when they went to the local movie theatres.
 
Earlier on, there was a lot of Bossanova and Cuban music in the Big Band Era. Does that count?

I guess, but I believe OP wants the culture of other countries to be as influential as Japanese culture. So there should be fanboys and fangirls of the musicians and Americans who openly base their music in Cuban styles to qualify.
 
I guess, but I believe OP wants the culture of other countries to be as influential as Japanese culture. So there should be fanboys and fangirls of the musicians and Americans who openly base their music in Cuban styles to qualify.
Lots of people wrote 'Latin swing' and 'Bossanova' music Stateside, no? And, yes, there were groupies and fans of that music.
Yes, I will agree that it was not as deep a penetration as Japanese today, but there was no TV and certainly no internet, which slows things down.

Also, I think people here are massively overestimating the penetration of otakus in the US.... Because we (or our friends) are the kinds of people who like that stuff. How many Trump supporters, for instance, do you suppose even know the words 'manga' and 'animé', and can distinguish between them?
 
Maybe have an Ethiopia that wasn't invaded by Italy during WWII, and then developed ethnic arts, become a sort of Japan to the US. This especially could happen if Japan royally ticks off everyone in America (Cherry Blossoms in the Night?)
 
Lots of people wrote 'Latin swing' and 'Bossanova' music Stateside, no? And, yes, there were groupies and fans of that music.
Yes, I will agree that it was not as deep a penetration as Japanese today, but there was no TV and certainly no internet, which slows things down.

Also, I think people here are massively overestimating the penetration of otakus in the US.... Because we (or our friends) are the kinds of people who like that stuff. How many Trump supporters, for instance, do you suppose even know the words 'manga' and 'animé', and can distinguish between them?

I agree with you. I don't think there are many Trump supporters who can differentiate between the two terms, and I also think that people here are overestimating the penetration of Japanese culture, as you just said. Nonetheless, I think that the OP wants just that, a non English speaking culture becoming so influential and penetrating US culture so much that people believe every American likes that.
 
I agree with you. I don't think there are many Trump supporters who can differentiate between the two terms, and I also think that people here are overestimating the penetration of Japanese culture, as you just said. Nonetheless, I think that the OP wants just that, a non English speaking culture becoming so influential and penetrating US culture so much that people believe every American likes that.
Yeah, I guess that would be the main focus of the question.:)
 
Isn't Mexican culture and music pretty massive over there?
I've never directly watched Mexican media but you get exposed to a lot of it second hand through American TV. Telenovellas and the like.
Then again, I guess a great deal of it is undubbed.
 
Isn't Mexican culture and music pretty massive over there?
Then again, I guess a great deal of it is undubbed.

Yeah, I believe most Mexican culture is consumed by Spanish speaking Latinos or their descendants, and not by your average White American guy.
 
Yeah, I believe most Mexican culture is consumed by Spanish speaking Latinos or their descendants, and not by your average White American guy.
On the other hand, there are almost certainly significantly more Latinos and their descendants than there are otakus (remembering that ~10% of the US has Spanish as their first language, and plenty more will be bilingual). And things like salsa (both the music and the food, though the music is more Caribbean in origin) have pretty widespread appeal.

There was a pretty strong influx of "Eastern" orientalism during the '60s, especially in the New Age and Hippie movements, with some aspects of pseudo-Indian influence lasting even today.

Plenty of European music gained significant following in the US (e.g. ABBA), as well as one-hit-wonders like Dragostea Din Tei (a.k.a. the "Numa Numa song," which seemed to be everywhere for about a year in the mid-2000s, and which I now have stuck in my head, thank you very much).
 
Maybe have an Ethiopia that wasn't invaded by Italy during WWII, and then developed ethnic arts, become a sort of Japan to the US. This especially could happen if Japan royally ticks off everyone in America (Cherry Blossoms in the Night?)

Sounds a lot harder than other cultures mentioned. Considering all I can think of for Ethiopian culture is their cuisine and several noteworthy Ethiopian jazz musicians. Aside from some critical acclaimed but rather unknown musicians (compared to the aforementioned Cuban or Brazilian musicians, at least), what else in Ethiopian culture has even come close to making its way into the West?

Nigeria probably has a better shot than any other African country at their pop culture. Their music certainly (starting with Fela Kuti), other Nigerian things...well, their film industry (Nollywood) is pretty notorious for some Z-grade stuff that makes something like Turkish Star Wars look like The Force Awakens in terms of professional quality. Maybe a company ends up importing the most ridiculous Nigerian films to the US and they get a cult following ("man, check out how bad this movie is, it's hilarious! Thanks Nigeria!") And I'd still say Nigeria's a long shot compared to other countries mentioned in this thread.
 
Sounds a lot harder than other cultures mentioned. Considering all I can think of for Ethiopian culture is their cuisine and several noteworthy Ethiopian jazz musicians. Aside from some critical acclaimed but rather unknown musicians (compared to the aforementioned Cuban or Brazilian musicians, at least), what else in Ethiopian culture has even come close to making its way into the West?

Nigeria probably has a better shot than any other African country at their pop culture. Their music certainly (starting with Fela Kuti), other Nigerian things...well, their film industry (Nollywood) is pretty notorious for some Z-grade stuff that makes something like Turkish Star Wars look like The Force Awakens in terms of professional quality. Maybe a company ends up importing the most ridiculous Nigerian films to the US and they get a cult following ("man, check out how bad this movie is, it's hilarious! Thanks Nigeria!") And I'd still say Nigeria's a long shot compared to other countries mentioned in this thread.

Ethiopia, or the idea of Ethiopia being the sole bastion of African local rule, could make it popular, especially if there is no Italian colonization. IT still is a long shot for Africa overall, since Colonization really messed up african culture.
 
Ethiopia, or the idea of Ethiopia being the sole bastion of African local rule, could make it popular, especially if there is no Italian colonization. IT still is a long shot for Africa overall, since Colonization really messed up african culture.

Perhaps among African Americans, meaning more Ethiopian influences in black culture which will filter into the rest of American culture before long. But outside of that community, I'd find it difficult.
 
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