Belle Epoque alliance system without the Habsburg Empire

Most likely European alliance system without the Habsburg Empire

  • CP Triple Alliance, Anglo-French-Russian Triple Entente

    Votes: 25 38.5%
  • CP Triple Alliance, Franco-Russian Dual Entente, Britain neutral

    Votes: 8 12.3%
  • Anglo-CP Quadruple Alliance, Franco-Russian Dual Entente

    Votes: 8 12.3%
  • CP-Russian Quadruple Alliance, Anglo-French Dual Entente

    Votes: 16 24.6%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 8 12.3%

  • Total voters
    65
Exactly. I'm all for democracy (with reservations, it is far from an optimal system) and human rights. But national sovreignty is a foolish and harmful ideology that has nothing to do with both.

So are the wars needed to create your megastates.

The difference between the real EU and your "Napoleonic/Bismarckian/Whilhelmian/Nazi EUs" are the real EU isn't create by a war, where your timeline varieties are.
 
So are the wars needed to create your megastates.

The difference between the real EU and your "Napoleonic/Bismarckian/Whilhelmian/Nazi EUs" are the real EU isn't create by a war, where your timeline varieties are.

Well without WWII and the continent devastated, economically in dire straits and with the various colonial empires dismantled the EU will not be created, so in a way it was a war who created the basis for the European Union. Without the necessity to unite the various resource and the extreme war waryness of west europe it's hard to image an Europe who willingly and peacefull unite.
 
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