I think he meant that since Belgium is not a Homogenous ethnic nation state…..it's artificial. Wait….that means we only have so much time left…..before America is shattered.
Belgium Split
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I think he meant that since Belgium is not a Homogenous ethnic nation state…..it's artificial. Wait….that means we only have so much time left…..before America is shattered.
Kitiem3000
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Joke about it now, but you aren't exactly becoming more harmonious lately.
No nation lasts forever.
I'd like to go back to Kitiem3000's first post. 2 key points there. One is that the two cultures in Belgium don't get along well and the rancor frequently leads to governmental paralysis. The other point is that under the 'protective umbrella' of the EU regional secessionist and autonomist movements arestronger than when it was necessary to hang together to survive. Look at Scotland, Corsica, the Padonia movement in Italy. Even look back at the Velvet divorce of the Czechs and Slovaks. (I am not going anywhere near the former Yugoslavia). Perhaps the three factors that Belgium has that Czechoslovakia lacked are 1) the monarchy, 2) an additional near century of being a single country, 3)an even longer history of being part of the same polity (Burgundy, Spanish then Austrian Netherlands) while the Czechs and SLovaks had always been divided between AUstria and Hungary within the Empire and had no common political history before 1918. The monarchy provides a linguisticaly neutral rallying point as long as it remains respected, and it looks like Philippe II for now has that respect. The longer period of common polity provides greater institutional inertia for remaining united. I would put the odds on a break-up of Belgium at under 50/50 but not under 25%. Perhaps the trigger for a successful breakup might be a SNP victory in the Scots independence reformation. If the UK can breakup, why not Belgium. An independent Scotland would be a big boost to all of the budding separtist movements in the EU
Belgium faced three times almost collaps
the 1945-1950 the Leopold III crisis, who let to short 3 day civil war
the 1980 finical crisis were the kingdom was almost bankrupt like Greece, with 1500 million euro debts
the 1995-1997 crisis years with:
arrest of mass murders Detroux, Pandy and Fourned
biggest corruption scandal in Belgium history (starting with murder of socialist unionist, ending with entire leader ship of Socialists party under criminal prosecution)
the Dioxin in food scandal, contaminated soft drink Scandal
for them moment the forth crisis comes closer
the impoverishment of Belgium people by rising taxes and increased cost of living, combined with bureaucratic overregulation...
the 1945-1950 the Leopold III crisis, who let to short 3 day civil war
the 1980 finical crisis were the kingdom was almost bankrupt like Greece, with 1500 million euro debts
the 1995-1997 crisis years with:
arrest of mass murders Detroux, Pandy and Fourned
biggest corruption scandal in Belgium history (starting with murder of socialist unionist, ending with entire leader ship of Socialists party under criminal prosecution)
the Dioxin in food scandal, contaminated soft drink Scandal
for them moment the forth crisis comes closer
the impoverishment of Belgium people by rising taxes and increased cost of living, combined with bureaucratic overregulation...
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that a really hysterical drama
The Walloons and the Flemish scream for decades: Brussels is OUR Capital
While inhabitant of Brussels have another option on that idea: ARE YOUR OUT OF YOUR MINDS !?
in same time the three smother up for decades, about the Germans spoils of war, eh i mean german speaking communtiy...
Hardly the only place. I think you can easily include all facility municipalities (certainly Voeren) and probably all of Brussels-Halle-Vilvoorde. I would say that those are reasons enough that Belgium won't split. It took them 1.5 years to agree about a new government. It will take them decades to agree about an actual split.
That is, of course, besides the fact that a majority of the Belgians and Flemish don't want to split the country. Unless the Walloon politicians screw up big the next couple of years (which certainly is possible), Belgium will probably remain one country.
The best place to look for is probably the first half of the 20th century. Tensions between Walloons and Flemish were much higher in those days.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
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Well, we are coming up on the 100 year anniversary of WW1.
But I don't see how to split Belgium, except for the dates given. The recent stuff, the country soldiered on, no bombings like in N. Ireland, or Basque. Seems they would need more radicalization, maybe around class, ethnic groups, economic... I got nothing.
Well, we are coming up on the 100 year anniversary of WW1.
But I don't see how to split Belgium, except for the dates given. The recent stuff, the country soldiered on, no bombings like in N. Ireland, or Basque. Seems they would need more radicalization, maybe around class, ethnic groups, economic... I got nothing.
nothing of that
but in last years, many threats were send to Belgium Media
like the Limburg Liberation front, who regular menace to kill foreigners, if they not send back to there home country.
or the increase on who threaten to kill member of royal familiy
last time some one of german speaking community, demanding political change and reduction of taxes or crown princess Elisabeth (12 years old) gets killed.
if the currently Belgium financial policy not change, it's only a matter of time they, until they implement there menace...
Cook
Banned
I was thinking more in terms of the shitty little conflagration that was the Bosnian War, itself now more than twenty years ago, rather than the Armageddon of Western Civilization.