Under the Spreading Chestnut Tree: A Nineteen Eighty-Four Timeline

I'd like to take an opportunity here to give a shout-out to Will Ritson, author of Images of 1984: Stories from Oceania, an absolutely superb TL which posits that, rather than being a trans-continental empire as I'm working towards, Oceania only encompasses England, and the Party hides the truth of the outside world from its people. It is very well done, and it's what inspired me to start this TL. Unfortunately, it kind of trailed off about halfway through, but by that point we had already been introduced to O'Brien and Winston, learned who Big Brother was, and the origins of Ingsoc had been laid out quite clearly. If you're interested in my TL, you'll love Will Ritson's.

It's one of my favourites on the board.
 
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Excerpt from The Daily News, 17 May 1901

FURNITURE DEALERSHIP BURNS DOWN IN WHITECHAPEL
by Charles Chesterforth

The Goldstein & Sons Furniture Co., a furniture dealership at 26 East Whitechapel Road* in east London, burned to the ground early Wednesday morning. By the time the fire brigade arrived at approximately three o'clock in the morning, the store had been burning for three-quarters of an hour, and there was little that could be done to salvage it. Fortunately, the fire was stopped from spreading to the nearby buildings and no one was injured or killed, but the building, as well as the merchandise, tools and materials inside, were destroyed, adding up to at least six thousand pounds' worth of lost value. When approached for comment, the proprietor of the business, Mr. Morris Goldstein* of Whitechapel, expressed his intention to file a fire insurance claim to recoup the value of his tragically lost business.

*There really was a Mr. Morris Goldstein in Whitechapel who owned a furniture store at 26 East Whitechapel Rd. in 1901. The name of the store is made up. Any guesses on what one of his sons is named?
 
Excerpt from The Daily News, 17 May 1901

FURNITURE DEALERSHIP BURNS DOWN IN WHITECHAPEL
by Charles Chesterforth

The Goldstein & Sons Furniture Co., a furniture dealership at 26 East Whitechapel Road* in east London, burned to the ground early Wednesday morning. By the time the fire brigade arrived at approximately three o'clock in the morning, the store had been burning for three-quarters of an hour, and there was little that could be done to salvage it. Fortunately, the fire was stopped from spreading to the nearby buildings and no one was injured or killed, but the building, as well as the merchandise, tools and materials inside, were destroyed, adding up to at least six thousand pounds' worth of lost value. When approached for comment, the proprietor of the business, Mr. Morris Goldstein* of Whitechapel, expressed his intention to file a fire insurance claim to recoup the value of his tragically lost business.

*There really was a Mr. Morris Goldstein in Whitechapel who owned a furniture store at 26 East Whitechapel Rd. in 1901. The name of the store is made up. Any guesses on what one of his sons is named?
This is giving me major deja vu.
 
I feel very strongly that I've seen that exact same origin story for Goldstein before.
Really? I wasn't aware. Do you remember where you would have heard it? If so, I want to give it a read. I love any 1984 AH, and if there's any convergence here it's totally accidental, but I'd like to know so I can come up with something original.
 
Really? I wasn't aware. Do you remember where you would have heard it? If so, I want to give it a read. I love any 1984 AH, and if there's any convergence here it's totally accidental, but I'd like to know so I can come up with something original.
I honestly have no idea. It may be a simple case of inexplicable deja vu. Did you hear about the Goldstein furniture thing anywhere else, or was it independent research?
 
I honestly have no idea. It may be a simple case of inexplicable deja vu. Did you hear about the Goldstein furniture thing anywhere else, or was it independent research?
It was independent. I searched up "Emmanuel Goldstein" in the UK census from 1901 and came upon such a person (link here) who was born around the right place and the right time to make a good Goldstein. The census listed this man's father Morris as a "Furniture dealer", and a search through a post office directory from 1899 (link also here-page 307) confirmed that he was the owner. From this I thought of a working backstory for what might push him to socialism at an early stage.
 
Eh, must just be that ephemeral and inexplicable phenomenon that is deja vu then.

As always, looking forward for more.
 

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I feel very strongly that I've seen that exact same origin story for Goldstein before.

Really? I wasn't aware. Do you remember where you would have heard it? If so, I want to give it a read. I love any 1984 AH, and if there's any convergence here it's totally accidental, but I'd like to know so I can come up with something original.


I'm pretty sure the deja vu is because Images of 1984 used someone fairly similar. Another Jewish furniture maker.

Emmanuel Goldstein
Emmanuel Goldstein was born in Aston, Birmingham in 1897, the son of a Jewish cabinet maker, a Pole named Lewis Goldstein and his wife Annie (1). The younger of two brothers (Samuel, b. 1895) Emmanuel followed his father into cabinet making, before taking an interest in local politics. During the Great War Goldstein saw action in France, resulting in a minor injury due to shrapnel.

In 1918, following the war and his return to Birmingham, he joined the Labour party and became a proactive member and strong organiser. Alining himself with the left of the party, he first came to the fore as an worker within Oswald Mosley's campaign to unseat Neville Chamberlain from Birmingham Ladywood in 1924 - Goldstein's home constituency - and played no small part in almost achieving a defeat of the incumbant Conservative. (2)

Following the campaign, Goldstein became a key part of Mosley's staff, especially during the 1926 campaign that saw the maverick politician become MP for Smethwick.

By the early 1930s he was beginning to emerge from under the shadow of Mosley and become an instrumental figure in the Labour party in his own right.



(1) I have taken a certain amount of licence with this. This person did exist - he and his family are listed in the 1901 census. It is purely coincidence that he happened to reside in a constituency contested by Mosley in the 1920s. Any details other than what I can take from the census return are fiction, but it is a great tie-in with this story that an Emmanuel Goldstein existed in such a location at this time.

Obviously you could query Mosley's relationship with a Jewish politician, but I believe that this is early enough to be before Mosley becomes too influenced by facism and anti-semiticism.

(2) In OTL Mosley lost by just 77 votes. This is before the PoD.
 
Yeah, that's it!

Though I certainly don't think you plagiarized. I guess Jews were just very involved in the furniture market.
 
Yeah, that's it!

Though I certainly don't think you plagiarized. I guess Jews were just very involved in the furniture market.

Ah yes, I remember that. Don't worry, this is a different Goldstein with a different backstory. He will most likely become involved with Ozzie Mozz, but not in the same capacity as in Images of 1984.
 
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Eh, must just be that ephemeral and inexplicable phenomenon that is deja vu then.

As always, looking forward for more.

Or someone else writing a 1984-inspired TL looked up the old census data for Emmanuel Goldstein? Makes a lot of sense to do that, so I could easily see two authors having the idea independently.
 
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Dear Mr. Morris Goldstein,

We have received the claim which you filed on 20 May 1901, pursuant to the structure at 26 Whitechapel Rd. E in London, also known as Goldstein & Sons Furniture Co., which was destroyed by fire on the seventeenth of that month. We have looked into the case in question, and have conducted a thorough investigation into the event. Our investigation has concluded that the building in question was improperly constructed, as it failed to conform to the London Building Act of 1894.

As is clearly stated in the contractual agreement between our two parties, the Emanuel & Browne Marine and Fire Insurance Company does not release payment on claims in which the concerned buildings are not up to code. It is for this reason that we regret to inform you that it is not our prerogative to reimburse you the value of your business, and that your claim has been denied. We sincerely apologise for any inconveniences this may cause. If you have any questions or concerns, you are welcome to notify this office via mail.

Yours,
Francis J. Emanuel
27/7/1901

Partner, Emanuel & Browne Marine and Fire Insurance Co.
2 St. Michael's Pl. Cornhill, London EC3V 3PD
 
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Just a coincidence then?

It's actually a pretty mundane reason why:

"Emanuel...Emanuel!"

Ten-year-old Emmanuel Goldstein, snug in bed but still wide awake, could just make out his name being called from across the flat. There were plenty of other words but he couldn't hear them all from the other room. Normally, he stayed in bed when his dad made a ruckus, but if his name was being called, they must want a word with him.

He slinked out of bed and tiptoed through the room, so as not to rouse his brothers and sisters. As Emmanuel peered over the corner to the kitchen, he saw that his father was fuming over some piece of paper in his hand. Could it be his school report? No, school had ended for the summer plenty long ago. And even if it were, his marks were perfectly up to snuff--there'd be no reason for his father to go mad over them. In any case, now that he was closer up he could better make out what his father was saying:

"That damned liar Emanuel, I had that warehouse inspected three times and they assured me, every time, that it was perfectly up to code! That dirty thieving dog's just trying to keep our money, plain and simple," said Morris Goldstein to his wife.

They couldn't mean him, thought the boy standing outside the door. They must mean another Emmanuel. But why was his father cross with this other Emanuel fellow? He'd have to listen for longer.

...To be continued.
 
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