BB-21 Class battleships

Blair152

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I was on a site called The-Blueprints.com. There was a drawing on there of
a battleship they called the BB-21 class. What if this class of battleships is the real thing?
 
Ah, yes, neat.

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I was on a site called The-Blueprints.com. There was a drawing on there of
a battleship they called the BB-21 class. What if this class of battleships is the real thing?


The USN would have spent an extra 50-60 billion dollars that would have been better spent on more Virginia Class SSN (or on my beloved but abandoned SSN 21 Seawolf class boats) and on additional CVN 77 class carriers for ships of limited utility.
 

Blair152

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The USN would have spent an extra 50-60 billion dollars that would have been better spent on more Virginia Class SSN (or on my beloved but abandoned SSN 21 Seawolf class boats) and on additional CVN 77 class carriers for ships of limited utility.
Very true. The arsenal ship was a result of a French study. The design was
stealthy enough.
 
I was on a site called The-Blueprints.com. There was a drawing on there of
a battleship they called the BB-21 class. What if this class of battleships is the real thing?

I don't believe that anything was seriously considered by the US Navy. There is a lot about the picture that implies it was cobbled together. It clearly is similar to the DD-21 project, which I believe is the Zumwalt class destroyers. The 'DD-21' means destroyer 21st century.

The way things are going with the US Navy its unlikely that such a large expensive ship would be built since it would come at the expense of an aircraft carrier. Should it be built it would be unlikely that you would see more than 2-3 ships of the class.
 

Blair152

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I don't believe that anything was seriously considered by the US Navy. There is a lot about the picture that implies it was cobbled together. It clearly is similar to the DD-21 project, which I believe is the Zumwalt class destroyers. The 'DD-21' means destroyer 21st century.

The way things are going with the US Navy its unlikely that such a large expensive ship would be built since it would come at the expense of an aircraft carrier. Should it be built it would be unlikely that you would see more than 2-3 ships of the class.
That's right. However, there are those in Congress who want to build more than the 2-3 ships that the money's appropriated for, David. I don't know if it's the House, or Senate, that's opposed to the Zumwalt class. It's probably the Senate. The Senate cut the money for the Zumwalt class and
wants to extend the life of the Arleigh Burke class by one ship.
 
Looking in my "Janes Battleships of the 20th Century"... :)

The US laid down 6 "South Dakota BB-49" class BBs. Three were almost ready to launch (1/3 complete) when the Washington Treaty got em scrapped. They woulda been neato. 12 x 16 in 45 cal in 4 triple turrets, but still only 23 knots.

The British were planning to build what they called "1921" designs. They hadnt decided yet what configuration they wanted. L2 had 8 x 18 guns in 4 turrets, 2 forward and 2 aft. L3 had 9 x 18 guns in 3 turrets, 2 forward and 1 aft. M2 had 8 x 18 inch, but the funnel and superstructure were aft of the rear set of guns, with the Bridge between the 2 sets of turrets. M3 was similar, but with 3 triple turrets. It resembles a Nelson but with the bridge forward of the 3rd turret. Odd indeed.
 

Blair152

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Looking in my "Janes Battleships of the 20th Century"... :)

The US laid down 6 "South Dakota BB-49" class BBs. Three were almost ready to launch (1/3 complete) when the Washington Treaty got em scrapped. They woulda been neato. 12 x 16 in 45 cal in 4 triple turrets, but still only 23 knots.

The British were planning to build what they called "1921" designs. They hadnt decided yet what configuration they wanted. L2 had 8 x 18 guns in 4 turrets, 2 forward and 2 aft. L3 had 9 x 18 guns in 3 turrets, 2 forward and 1 aft. M2 had 8 x 18 inch, but the funnel and superstructure were aft of the rear set of guns, with the Bridge between the 2 sets of turrets. M3 was similar, but with 3 triple turrets. It resembles a Nelson but with the bridge forward of the 3rd turret. Odd indeed.
That's right. One of the 16" guns that was supposed to be on the South Dakota Class of 1920, is at the Washington Navy Yard. If the British G3 battlecrisers had been built, they would have been named after the four
patron saints of the British Empire, St. George, (England), St. Patrick, (Ireland), St. Andrew, (Scotland), and St. David, (Wales). If the four N3
class battleships built, they would have been another Admiral class. We,
here, in the United States, named our battleships after "The States of the
Union." Cruisers were named for "The Cities and Towns of the States of the Union." This is in accordance with an 1819 law which says that "Ships of the First Rate should be named for the States of the Union," and that
"Ships of the Third Rate should be named after the Cities and Towns of the
States of the Union." When the current USS New York was built, the Navy
had to make an exception to its rule that assigned state names to submarines. If the Navy was serious about this, then it would have had to do the same thing.
 
That's right. One of the 16" guns that was supposed to be on the South Dakota Class of 1920, is at the Washington Navy Yard. If the British G3 battlecrisers had been built, they would have been named after the four
patron saints of the British Empire, St. George, (England), St. Patrick, (Ireland), St. Andrew, (Scotland), and St. David, (Wales). If the four N3
class battleships built, they would have been another Admiral class.

Blair, while there was nothing really set about the naming of the G3 battlecruisers it is generally accepted that they would have named after the 'I class' battlecruisers: Invincible, Inflexible, Indomitable, Indefatigable. The names (the patron saints of the United Kingdom) you give above are speculated to be those for the N3 battleships.
 

Blair152

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Blair, while there was nothing really set about the naming of the G3 battlecruisers it is generally accepted that they would have named after the 'I class' battlecruisers: Invincible, Inflexible, Indomitable, Indefatigable. The names (the patron saints of the United Kingdom) you give above are speculated to be those for the N3 battleships.
Thank you, David. I stand corrected. Note to self: Reread the article in wikipedia.
 

Blair152

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Read Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships - all three volumes and you'll have a good base. Don't bother with Wikipedia.
I have the title written down somewhere. If I'm not mistaken, it's a series. Starting with 1906 and continuing through to the present.
 
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