Bay of pigs invasion a success, Wat Next ?

wat if the Cuban exiles made succesfull invasion of Cuba ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

wat happen next ?

will Fidel Castro survive and goes into underground resistance
will US send Troops to Cuba and have a "Vietnam" there

and how gona responds the Soviet Union and Nikita Khrushchev ?
send troops or supply to underground resistance
make second Blocade of West Berlin until occupation troops are withdrawn from Cuba...
 
The Soviets won't commit troops, they proved during the Missile Crisis that they don't have the heart to go to war with the US over an island in the Caribbean.

Would the US commit troops and support? A little more interesting as the US has a rich history of intervening in Caribbean politics and such. Though I doubt it as Kennedy failed to provide the promised airsupport.

I just see a bloody civil war in the island with both sides really going nowhere and maybe one intense standoff similar to the CMC
 
Though I doubt it as Kennedy failed to provide the promised airsupport.
yes that true

wat if the United States presidential election, 1960 ends in another results
wat about 35 US President Robert Nixon or another Person like Lyndon B. Johnson or Barry Goldwater ?
they provide the promised airsupport !

The Soviets won't commit troops
about give supply to underground resistance or made second Berlin Blockade...
 
yes that true

wat if the United States presidential election, 1960 ends in another results
wat about 35 US President Robert Nixon or another Person like Lyndon B. Johnson or Barry Goldwater ?
they provide the promised airsupport !


about give supply to underground resistance or made second Berlin Blockade...

Soviets providing aid could happen but they have to get it to Cuba somehow. And the American public proved in OTL how intolerant they were of direct Soviet arming of Cuban Communists, perhaps another blockade?

If we get a President willing to commit troops then we've got a Caribbean Vietnam, though it could probably end and behandeled better. This isn't some far off country half way around the world and the troops would have free reign unlike when they were in Vietnam and couldn't go North. They would also have more support all across the Island. I see a better Vietnam with a conflict that sees a lot more military airstrikes and a possible naval blockade that ends with a semi-American victory. Castro would def. not be in power at the very very least.
 

bard32

Banned
wat if the Cuban exiles made succesfull invasion of Cuba ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

wat happen next ?

will Fidel Castro survive and goes into underground resistance
will US send Troops to Cuba and have a "Vietnam" there

and how gona responds the Soviet Union and Nikita Khrushchev ?
send troops or supply to underground resistance
make second Blocade of West Berlin until occupation troops are withdrawn from Cuba...

Fidel Castro, his brother, Raoul, and other members of his government, go into exile in the Soviet Union.
 
Cuba might have become a Caribbean Tiger if the refugees return, as Cuba had a large middle-class. However by that I'm thinking quite a corrupt, if profitable nation along the lines of Brazil with super-rich and super-poor.

Or if America follows its sadly common course to its southern neighbours, military strongmen may have taken over before Washington predictably crushes them in the 1980s when they get too big for their boots :rolleyes:
 
Cuba might have become a Caribbean Tiger if the refugees return, as Cuba had a large middle-class. However by that I'm thinking quite a corrupt, if profitable nation along the lines of Brazil with super-rich and super-poor.

Or if America follows its sadly common course to its southern neighbours, military strongmen may have taken over before Washington predictably crushes them in the 1980s when they get too big for their boots :rolleyes:

All of of Us who knows history knows, that Bay of pigs failed because they landed in the bay of pigs! And because Castro was so popular in the general Cuban population at the time! Had the Anti-Castro movement been able do something to make Castro unpopular I am sure bay of pigs had been successfull. What could this have been?
 
from Wiki:
The original plan called for landing the exile Brigade 2506 in the vicinity of the old colonial city of Trinidad, Cuba, in the central province of Sancti Spiritus approximately 400 km (250 miles) southeast of Havana, at the foothills of the Escambray Mountains.

there was a rebellion against the Communist government of Cuba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Against_the_Bandits

the Cuba secret intelligence knew wat was coming
and the Invasion itself was also planing disaster

President Kennedy changing the landing area for Brigade 2506
to the Zapata peninsula at the Bay of Pigs.
a area of swamp land, where they were easily surrounded by troops on foot.

Operation Puma was bomber raide with eight A-26 Invader
The First wave of air strikes across the island to effectively eliminate the Cuban air force
The second wave of air strikes, designed to wipe out the remainder of Castro's air force, was canceled.
wat was left of Cuba Air force were Hawker Sea Fury, ironical that Aircraft wat Cuba need for defence !

the Cuba Air force attact the Brigade 2506. and sink one of supply ships with Hawker Sea Fury.

had they stick to the original Plan,
Cuba Air force whipe out by Operation Puma second wave (include U.S. air cover)
the Brigade 2506 had easy reach the Escambray Mountains.

there the Exil Cuba Goverment had made radio call for US military help.
 
Castro's band of fighters were highly experienced in the mountains now if the Bay of Pigs is victorious and I suppose Castro either has to be captured or dies then its a big problem for the US.

As said earlier Castro in the early 1960s to some was a god and was nearly universally popular the US going in and installing a puppet regime as you really would need to have US Marines and air support to win the battle.

If Castro goes the often overlooked and underestimated Raul along with the other revolutionary leaders take his place. Raul was and still is a outstanding organiser his troop and his “Freedom Zone” were the most organised.

There was a break up of July the 26th movement after the end of Batista because they lost that common enemy now you have got it again.

I think the US got off lightly by losing. Castro wasn't some superhero however he had been in the mountains for years and had massive popular support he wouldn’t just go away...

If the US get lucky and kills him then you have an even bigger Che. Fidel was already an icon who is murdered by the US Marine Corps. Bad times ahead.
 
If the Us had commited the support promised the exiles would have won. While Fedel might have been popular his actions were begining to deminish that. The United States was even more popular in the country. It is very hard to carry out aninsurrgency on an island if the country that opposes it has control of the seas around it. This would prevnt supplies from reaching the Cuban communistos.
The United States would have to insist on democratic and economic reforms by the new Cuban government. If these were carried out and the living conditions improved then the communist threat to the island would have died.
 
Top