Battle of Midway

If that bomb hadn't crippled Yorktown's boilers, she'd have been restarted sooner, and thus, wouldn't have been in that location when the torpedo bombers arrived.

Not the point. One made a statement that was obvious hyperbole mixed with other statements that show that the actual situation was misunderstood and needed correction as to RTL fact.

And what makes one think the Yorktown would have remained undiscovered by the second strike? If not where expected, the IJNAS fliers would have executed a square grid search that would have located her. Maybe have to climb up to above 3,000 meters but a pilot at 3000 meters can see a ship's wake at 190 km radius. Just physics and recon 101.
 
You know a major way to influence Midway would be to have Neosho and Sims by protected by a squall during the time period when they were attacked at Coral Sea. Actually thinking about it is there any indication/evidence that Nimitz deployed Task Force 8 up to the Aleutians due to him not having enough fast oilers to use them at Midway. Because Yorktown had a seriously light screen when it came to cruisers and if I recall one of the reasons why Saratoga was so late to the party was a lack of available escorts to screen her.

Tanker shortage was acute. Neosho hurt a lot. Can't run destroyers and cruisers in a speed run; if there is no tanker support.
 
Not the point. One made a statement that was obvious hyperbole mixed with other statements that show that the actual situation was misunderstood and needed correction as to RTL fact.
Okay, I made a mistake. Still, it was a very lucky hit, a golden BB shot if you will.

And what makes one think the Yorktown would have remained undiscovered by the second strike? If not where expected, the IJNAS fliers would have executed a square grid search that would have located her. Maybe have to climb up to above 3,000 meters but a pilot at 3000 meters can see a ship's wake at 190 km radius. Just physics and recon 101.
They'd have had a heavier CAP, more in reserve, and the Japanese, again, would have had a whole other carrier to worry about.
 
If that bomb hadn't crippled Yorktown's boilers, she'd have been restarted sooner, and thus, wouldn't have been in that location when the torpedo bombers arrived.

Don't you know, no matter what changes during the battle, McP thinks USS Yorktown has nothing to look forward to, except...
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Tanker shortage was acute. Neosho hurt a lot. Can't run destroyers and cruisers in a speed run; if there is no tanker support.
Make you wonder how 1942 would have developed had there been 16 Cimarrons built as national defense tankers instead of 12 and the Sangamons not converted. Heck tanker shortages on both sides in large part determined how the naval aspect of Guadcanal was carried out for example the USN had two standard battleships in the area but no fuel to field them. In fairness the USN had very limited funding to build ships in the 1920s and for most of the 1930s and its not like they didn't ask Congress for money to build support ships and Congress authorized numerous support ships but in a typical fashion for Congress failed to provide money to build or man them. (Seriously it should have not very difficult to justify building said ships in the 30s as a way to provide relief to the battered civilian ship building industry and as way to teach young men various valuable skills)
 
Don't you know, no matter what changes during the battle, McP thinks USS Yorktown has nothing to look forward to, except...
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Have you read the Ship's Bill from Coral Sea? Even if she survived Midway, she was a dockyard case for as Aubrey Fitch optimistically stated "Three months". You could have sneezed at her and she would be in a bad way. (That is the correct way to use hyperbole.)
 
Have you read the Ship's Bill from Coral Sea? Even if she survived Midway, she was a dockyard case for as Aubrey Fitch optimistically stated "Three months". You could have sneezed at her and she would be in a bad way. (That is the correct way to use hyperbole.)
Heck the fact that she didn't roll over after absorbing three bombs and two arieal torpedoes in addition to her hastily(and by no means fully) repaired piror damage from Coral Sea within two hours and was afloat after being abandoned for a day and took two more far more powerful submarine torpedo hits to finish her off(and she still didnt die quickly), tells you just how well she was built and designed, albeit with one major flaw as related to the placement of the engine and boiler rooms, but hey the design team had to make a sacrifice somewhere due to limited available carrier tonnage under the naval treaties.
 
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