Awesome WW2 experimental Aircraft

Like the Go229, not a good plane to fly in if you intend to survive the war.

100% loss rate, with 100% aircrew fatalities.
If you're talking about the Natter, I'm sure it was far from being a safe plane to fly but according to "German Aircraft of World War 2" by Kenneth Munson there were a half dozen successful manned test flights where the pilots survived. I know that Wikipedia says there were no successful manned flights but I have read some other books on German WWII aircraft that also state there were some successful test flights.
 
Read it again. You actually cited the right areas. (engine especially.) Not suited to the work. You make it easy.
 

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Martin Baker 12 gun heavy fighter
 
I think he was talking about the Natter, it only made about a dozen test flights before the war ended and about half of those flights were successful but many sources state that none of them were successful like wikipedia.

The Smithsonian site is one with 3 successful manned flights following upon the failed one.
 
Read it again. You actually cited the right areas. (engine especially.) Not suited to the work. You make it easy.

If I already cited the 'right' areas - e.g. engine - that's already explained how others disagreed with it being a problem. And 'not suited to the work' - well the question their is what is the 'work' ?
Even though it was never intended by the Americans to take the RAAF with them to the Philippines as Kenny actually advised the
RAAF operational commander, Air Vice-Marshal William Bostock, on 27 September 1944 ― in reality the RAAF was not equipped to undertake such a strategic role anyway.
Essentially, the RAAF in New Guinea was operating in a tactical role, and the Vengeance deployment must be seen from that perspective. No 77 Wing was deployed in
an Army co-operation role, supporting the Australian 7th Division, while the 5th Air Force was planning strategic operations for which the Vengeance was inappropriat
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and -
The importance of forward planning and adequacy of logistic support to maintain cutting edge capability of war-winning quality was demonstrated by the induction
and operational employment of the Vultee Vengeance in service with the RAAF during World War II.

And while the P-40s flew more missions - their bomb load was less 1,000 lb, and normal range less 700 miles, compared to the Vengeance 2,000 lb and 1,200 mile.
 
The Horten iX / Horten 229

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Only two were built, one of them crashed during a test flight, but it did at least take off, so it can be considered experimental unlike those other late war german airplane concepts that never left the drawing board. And regarding the coolness factor I consider it about as cool as a WW2 design can get.
 
The Horten iX / Horten 229

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Only two were built, one of them crashed during a test flight, but it did at least take off, so it can be considered experimental unlike those other late war german airplane concepts that never left the drawing board. And regarding the coolness factor I consider it about as cool as a WW2 design can get.


Is there any truth to the rumor that a mock dog fight between FW-190 & HO-229 occurred?
 
The Horten iX / Horten 229

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Only two were built, one of them crashed during a test flight, but it did at least take off, so it can be considered experimental unlike those other late war german airplane concepts that never left the drawing board. And regarding the coolness factor I consider it about as cool as a WW2 design can get.
I think the 229 is one of the coolest designs of any era.

Is there any truth to the rumor that a mock dog fight between FW-190 & HO-229 occurred?
I've never heard of this rumor but that's what it sounds like, a rumor but in the last days of the war, I suppose anything was possible.
 
I believe the rumored rumor was a Me 262 vs the wing, and the 262 was out-performed. The exact nature of the out-performance wasn't specified, being a rumor. One area not specified was the ability to survive a failed engine in flight.
 

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I believe the rumored rumor was a Me 262 vs the wing, and the 262 was out-performed.

Ziller crashed the Go229V1 on its 3rd test flight, fatally, so this 'mock dogfight' would have had too have taken place during the first test flight (massively unlikely) or the second (highly unlikely)

The Go229 would not have lasted long on one engine, or in combat with a Vampire or a P-80.
 
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