Austro-Hungarian Egypt

Was it possible for Austria-Hungary to conquer Egypt

  • very Unlikely (0-20%)

    Votes: 39 58.2%
  • Unlikely (20-40%)

    Votes: 20 29.9%
  • Neutral (40-60%)

    Votes: 6 9.0%
  • Likely (60-80%)

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Very Likely (80-100%)

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Total voters
    67
Could the Austro-Hungarian Empire conquer Egypt? When? How?

Would there be any local factions that would or could support AH(Austria-Hungary)?

Let's say that Austria-Hungary had conquered Egypt, how would that change 19th century politics? How such a POD affect WW1? Could the British conquer Austro-Hungarian Egypt before WW1, during WW1, both or neither?
 
They would obviously have to colonise before the Scramble for Africa to avoid conflict with Britain, but doing that would be difficult. My personal suggestiom for a scenario is this:
Since there is a small window of time between the Congress of Berlin and the British Invasion of Egypt, let's assume for some reason the Ottomans are so angry at AH for occupying Bosnia they declare war. They obviously lose after foreign intervention, and AH gains a small area in the Nile Delta. Britain would be worried due to the Suez Canal being there, and it's likely they would both go to war. Let's say AH manages to conquer Egypt before the British have a chance to act, and they make peace. Moving forward, this would probably not affect the Scramble for Africa that much. When WW1 breaks out, though, things would be very different. The bad relations between AH and Britain could lead to an earlier DoW before the invasion of Belgium. The African fronts will also become more important. The Ottomans could focus on only Mesopotamia and the Caucasus, and the Central Powers have the Suez Canal from the start. My guess is that Austria loses badly in Egypt, after being attacked from every side, only holding on to Suez with German and Ottoman reinforcements. In the end, we would probably see the war end slightly later, but with largely the same results.
 
Austria Hungary could try to get some colonies during one of the many wars against the Ottomans, or they could trade something for Egypt
 

oberdada

Gone Fishin'
How will they devide it? Cisnilethania west of the Nile for Austria and Transnilethania east of the Nile for Hungary?

And will Hungarian Jews become the driving force of Zionism?
 

Kaze

Banned
The easy way would be when the Ottomans were at the gates of Vienna - the Ottomans are totally defeated and have to sign away territory to Austria - lots of territory.
 
Why not Austria-Hungary? Why is Austria more likely?

Because after the Napoleonic Wars Mehmed Ali Pasha is strong enough to repel any attacks. Other than the fact that invading Egypt means war with the Ottomans which kills the idea of invading Egypt anytime between 1815 and 1831.

And Austria-Hungary existed from 1867 onward. Which means neither France nor Britain will allow it.
 
Because after the Napoleonic Wars Mehmed Ali Pasha is strong enough to repel any attacks. Other than the fact that invading Egypt means war with the Ottomans which kills the idea of invading Egypt anytime between 1815 and 1831.

And Austria-Hungary existed from 1867 onward. Which means neither France nor Britain will allow it.
What kind of POD would be needed dor Austria to conquer Egypt?
 
Could the Austro-Hungarian Empire conquer Egypt? When? How?

Would there be any local factions that would or could support AH(Austria-Hungary)?

Let's say that Austria-Hungary had conquered Egypt, how would that change 19th century politics? How such a POD affect WW1? Could the British conquer Austro-Hungarian Egypt before WW1, during WW1, both or neither?
You need a pretty early PoD.

I'd go with worse losses in the Seventh Ottoman-Venetian War somehow creating enough instability in Venice for Austria to step in turning it into and Austrian dependancy. Now rather than only establishing a navy in 1786 (which amounted to only two Cutters prior to OTL's annexation of Venice) it has a much larger navy at its beck and call from 1718 on and has acquired the intact Venetian arsenal. An Austro-Venetian navy could really shake up the 1700s. Like say...

-rather than wasting funds on the Ostend Company Charles' fascination with everything other than the Austrian army is directed towards the Austro-Venetian Navy

-During the Austro-Turkish War of 1737–1739 dismal Austrian performance on land is offset by the capture of a few Greek islands, allowing for a Status Quo Antebellum peace rather than OTL's catastrophic losses.

-With Austria having "not lost" that war more states uphold the Pragmatic Sanction leading to a very different War of Austrian succession perhaps the Austro-Venetian navy could help prop up an independant Corsica.

... Yeah I'm not going to do a whole bullet note TL here, but you get the point, give Austria a navy and "wank" from there so that by TTL's Victorian Era the Austrian navy is as well establish in the Mediterranean as the French or British and the Austrian Empire is economically strong enough to be a player in Egyptian intrigue.
 
Austria-Hungary colonising the Nicobar Islands is more plausible than Austria-Hungary besting the Ottomans or the French and British geopolitical interests in 19th century Egypt.
 
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