Austrian or prusia america west

could Prussia or Austria colonize the american west let's say they buy it from spain/France in the early 1800s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_United_States#/media/File:Map_of_USA_highlighting_West.svg
Man, that's a long way.
Mexico did proposed to prussia to sold them Alta California for 7 million of dollar in 1843 and prussia did was heavily negotiated and having people talking about it in london...but they backed down at the last minute...
 
Mexico did proposed to prussia to sold them Alta California for 7 million of dollar in 1843 and prussia did was heavily negotiated and having people talking about it in london...but they backed down at the last minute...
Hmm... how would they settle the colony and defend the colony from American incursions (especially once gold is discovered)?
 
Hmm... how would they settle the colony and defend the colony from American incursions (especially once gold is discovered)?
That is why they were dealing with the british, maybe a defensive alliance, plus that was before gold, with the butterflies the gold would take longer to be discovered, now as the frontier fo america is at colorado river.
 
What type of colonialism would it be would it be colonized like the French in New France with very few settlers or like Britain in the Thirteen Colonies with mass immigration.
 
What type of colonialism would it be would it be colonized like the French in New France with very few settlers or like Britain in the Thirteen Colonies with mass immigration.
There were six million German immigrants to the United States during the 19th Century, so even 10% of them going to German California would be significant. I think it'd be quite hard to settle, as you'd either have to cross North America or go around South America, or at least until the Panama Canal is built.
 
There were six million German immigrants to the United States during the 19th Century, so even 10% of them going to German California would be significant. I think it'd be quite hard to settle, as you'd either have to cross North America or go around South America, or at least until the Panama Canal is built.
Mexico, you've to cross from mexico to california, is not hard but a quite long travel.
 
German Hochkalifornia and Niederkalifornia. Now there's potential for a 180 degree turn if ever one existed.

For some reason, "Operation Brandungslowe (Surf Lion)" comes to mind, in German with a Valley Girl accent. The latter is perhaps the more concerning of the two.
 
Hmm... how would they settle the colony and defend the colony from American incursions (especially once gold is discovered)?

To be fair, the only reason Americans were able to intrude upon their western neighbors OTL was because Mexico was basically a failed state at the time. The Texan Revolution happened at the same time as three other secessionist movements against the central government in Mexico. I don't recall the exact source but prior to the Louisiana purchase many American officials feared that tensions with the French-run Louisiana territory would result in a Franco-American war which wouldn't be pretty for the US. Although Prussia was viewed as the weakest of the great powers, and frankly had no navy to speak of, I think the US government would hesitate more here to support rogue settlers. Also a reason for Americans setting up shop in North Mexico and then attempting to secede was tensions with the government in Mexico City, especially over the attempted abolition of slavery which the Anglo settlers strongly resisted. The American settlers also had strong racial biases against the Mexican Tejanos as well as anti-Catholic sentiment; neither of which would be issues with a Protestant, "white" Prussian administration.

I'd say it's possible that America might still ultimately acquire California from Prussia ATL, since there are so many ways this ATL could go, but it's not a given. If they simply avoid pissing off the American settlers and have a somewhat competent administration then a secessionist movement would be dead in the water.
 
I'd say it's possible that America might still ultimately acquire California from Prussia ATL, since there are so many ways this ATL could go, but it's not a given. If they simply avoid pissing off the American settlers and have a somewhat competent administration then a secessionist movement would be dead in the water.
Excatly, specially as the prussia are far more competent
 
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