Austria in France invasion of mexico

What if during the French invasion of Mexico the Austrian send 20000 to 40000 troops to support maximilian to help him maintain power.
 

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The first question to come in mind is, how did Austria:
1) Found and train the soldiers
2) Financing them (soldier cost, equipments, incentives)
3) Getting their logistics to be done?
4) For what end?
 
The first question to come in mind is, how did Austria:
1) Found and train the soldiers
2) Financing them (soldier cost, equipments, incentives)
3) Getting their logistics to be done?
4) For what end?
  1. the soldiers are from the Austrian army and are a expeditionary force
  2. half france and half Austria since Maximilian is Austrian royalty
  3. the french transport them
  4. to make sure that Maximilian stays as emperor of mexico and to have Austria influence in america
 
Yeah spend soldier when needed soon in an upcoming war..the P-A war will be worse for the habsburg here, Maximiliam should have never leave austria at all
 
  1. the soldiers are from the Austrian army and are a expeditionary force
  2. half france and half Austria since Maximilian is Austrian royalty
  3. the french transport them
  4. to make sure that Maximilian stays as emperor of mexico and to have Austria influence in america
1. At this juncture, Austria is occupying restive territories and is diplomatically isolated. It has no troops to spare.
2a. France would have no interest in equipping/financing an Austrian army. They just concluded a war with them, after all.
2b. Maximilian forfeited his claims to nobility upon leaving for Mexico. He was no longer Austrian royalty, because the Austrian government recognized what a foolish venture the whole thing was.
3. It would be sheer folly to rely on another country to transport/supply your troops halfway across the world. The possibility of 20,000-40,000 men stranded in Mexico would be the diplomatic blunder of the century.
4. What does "influence" mean in this case? Mexico has nothing to offer Austria, and vice versa.
 
What if during the French invasion of Mexico the Austrian send 20000 to 40000 troops to support maximilian to help him maintain power.

The US gets even more persnicketty. I don't think the USN would actively intercept these ships, but...they might. Alternatively, once they've landed the US could place an embargo (thats not the correct word but it escapes me) on foreign military shipping and transport to Mexico. Post ACW they became quite good at that. The are between Florida, Cuba, and the Yucatan would be a nice interdiction area.

Alternatively they could step up their aid to Mexico's government further, with heavier arms (cannon or even an early form of Lend Lease of ships for Mexico).

If the war drums start they might use a pretext to do all of the above and send troops to kick France out.
 
The US gets even more persnicketty. I don't think the USN would actively intercept these ships, but...they might. Alternatively, once they've landed the US could place an embargo (thats not the correct word but it escapes me) on foreign military shipping and transport to Mexico. Post ACW they became quite good at that. The are between Florida, Cuba, and the Yucatan would be a nice interdiction area.

Alternatively they could step up their aid to Mexico's government further, with heavier arms (cannon or even an early form of Lend Lease of ships for Mexico).

If the war drums start they might use a pretext to do all of the above and send troops to kick France out.
why the united states not nervous of a french declaration of war for intercepting french ships?
 
why the united states not nervous of a french declaration of war for intercepting french ships?

Because a US just after the ACW would have punted them into next week.

EDIT: I should elaborate as that sounds flippant.
*Historically the US sent quite a bit of aid to Mexico to end the French occupation, including cashiering troops - er "volunteers" - and sending them south. The Monroe Doctrine is very strong at this time.

*The US is in a very strong position at this time. It has substantial stocks of equipment for its armies. Assuming this occurs after the the Union cashiers its ACW armies it still has a large reservoir of very veteran troops. Remember, nothing unifies a country like an external threat.

*The US Navy coming off the ACW is also very strong, and does not dissipate as readily as the land formations. It is far closer to its bases of support.

*Unlike WWI and WWII the Europeans would have to come to the Americas, without support, in a hostile country.

*The US beat France in the Quasi War. The US does not fear France.
 
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Because a US just after the ACW would have punted them into next week.

EDIT: I should elaborate as that sounds flippant.
*Historically the US sent quite a bit of aid to Mexico to end the French occupation, including cashiering troops - er "volunteers" - and sending them south. The Monroe Doctrine is very strong at this time.

*The US is in a very strong position at this time. It has substantial stocks of equipment for its armies. Assuming this occurs after the the Union cashiers its ACW armies it still has a large reservoir of very veteran troops. Remember, nothing unifies a country like an external threat.

*The US Navy coming off the ACW is also very strong, and does not dissipate as readily as the land formations. It is far closer to its bases of support.

*Unlike WWI and WWII the Europeans would have to come to the Americas, without support, in a hostile country.

*The US beat France in the Quasi War. The US does not fear France.
The french had the best army in Europe can the US army take that on?
 
It's 1865, not 1365. The United Kingdom of Austria and Mexico, while a hilarious idea, just won't happen this way.
 
But can the USA survive with its trade with Europe under attack
France is not Britain. France and Austria both have existential threats physically bordering them.

The french had the best army in Europe can the US army take that on?
Ghost Bismark chuckles quietly at that... yes the US can definitely do so. After all, the French have to go to Mexico. The Union doesn't have to go to France.
 
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