aternate cold war

who would win germany or japan if they had won the war


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who would win japan or germany if they had won the war and decide to vs each other



sorry about spelling alternate wrong i relised just after typing it and i dont know how to change it
 
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alternate cold war

yes man in the high castle is a good example of this situation but i dont agree that canada would facist puupet state because germany being germany wants it all for its self under what ever leadership of this time like vichy france
 
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US is quite a question because japan had a very slm chance in beating it and for germany it would depend on certin decisions made by hitler.
such as dunkirk and operation barbarossa.


Lets take some few seconds for rational thought.

Japan lost the war before it began. They stood no chance.. wrong war .. wrong time. great they knock out pearl.. so what.. pearl was not everything to the US military. All we had to do was sit on our hands, there was nothing Japan could do to the US mainland to compel surrender.

Germany.. if they would have stopped at Austria like smart people, then you could have a multi polar cold war if Germany didn't just go bankrupt.

Problem with Germany is that they were over spending by astronomical measures and had no way to sustain the economy more then a few years out.

Ok so lets move on in this .. Germany decides to do its thing and things go to plan France falls, Poland falls, etc.etc.. etc.. then Germany stops, and puts out peace feelers over and over and doesn't invade Soviet Union. It still goes belly up. Germany can't remain in France indefinitely. Germany would also have to rein in Italy and pull out of things it didn't really want to be in anyway.. so great .. you have a large central European Germany, spent too much on war that gained them not very much. Booted out and or exterminated all the slavs and jews and well anyone they darn well pleased and your left with ... failure. Germany should have stopped in 38, early 39 or been stopped.


Once the United States and Russia get moving it's pretty much over.

but Japan stood no chance..
 
Ok handwaving every single thing, im saying that this is a theoretical exercise about something to analyze the capabilities of Germany and Japan in the event that they win, and in the end i must say... I have no bloody idea. Ill have to say Germany though, because they arnt going into open warfare (its a cold war) Germany would have the advantage of a larger industry and by extension of that the ability to manufacture lots of arms for proxy forces (although i have no idea what free nations would actually be left for them to argue over). But besides proxy wars and insurgencies, Germany would have larger industry and would be able to run Japan's rival economy to the ground most likely (im making presumptions here, its totally possible that given 50 good years Japan can build a decent economy). Although Japan does have a lot of raw resources and cutting off trade of vital material could mess with the European economy. Anyone know how dependent Europe is on foreign resources?

But im rambling, i vote Germany.
 
so it has been established that germany would win without a doubt ok lets see how the actual war would go as in

who would have the nukes, we all probaly guess the germans but ecaping scientist could have gotten to japanese.
 
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