Assuming no military intervention, could an independent New York survive?

An idea toyed with occasionally here is the idea of an independent New York, which a few vague independence movements sprang up in around the time of the Civil War.

Let's say New York is able to get independence - presumably just the city, and that for one reason or another (perhaps an alliance with another nation mixed with a Confederate victory) it survives.

Assuming the stars align correctly, could it survive?

Resources are scarce and I'm not sure how willing other countries would be to do trade with it.
 

SinghKing

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An idea toyed with occasionally here is the idea of an independent New York, which a few vague independence movements sprang up in around the time of the Civil War.

Let's say New York is able to get independence - presumably just the city, and that for one reason or another (perhaps an alliance with another nation mixed with a Confederate victory) it survives.

Assuming the stars align correctly, could it survive?

Resources are scarce and I'm not sure how willing other countries would be to do trade with it.

Just Manhattan? No. Including the entirety of Long Island? Maybe.
 

SinghKing

Banned
Why is Long Island important (agriculture)? If it helps, then I have no problem with it being part of the hypothetical state anyway.

Yep. By including the entirety of Long Island (incl. Nassau and Suffolk County), even present day NYC (with its population of 8.4>10M people) becomes a net exporter of food, and becomes self-sufficient with regards to its fresh water supply (as the locations of the aquifers which supply 4M gallons of fresh water a day to NYC's residents).
 
Yep. By including the entirety of Long Island (incl. Nassau and Suffolk County), even present day NYC (with its population of 8.4>10M people) becomes a net exporter of food, and becomes self-sufficient with regards to its fresh water supply (as the locations of the aquifers which supply 4M gallons of fresh water a day to NYC's residents).

That's surprising actually. I knew Long Island had agriculture but wasn't aware it was that much.

What about coal and the like? I think this will be a problem unless I am mistaken again, I suppose trade is the only way here. With an excess of food it could be easier.
 
Yep. By including the entirety of Long Island (incl. Nassau and Suffolk County), even present day NYC (with its population of 8.4>10M people) becomes a net exporter of food, and becomes self-sufficient with regards to its fresh water supply (as the locations of the aquifers which supply 4M gallons of fresh water a day to NYC's residents).

NYC's water comes from the Catskill Mountains via an aqueduct, not Long Island.
 
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