ASBs in OTL

Yes, 18th Century Europe operated under the principal of balance of power, which basically meant that any time one nation started to become too powerful, the rest would join together and jump on them. Around 1780, it was Britain's turn to be jumped upon - note that France wasn't the only European power that supported the American Revolution.

If there is any ASB factor in the ARW, it is that Britain actually benefitted from losing. The costs of the war to France, plus the revolutionary influences, led to the French Revolution and Napoleaonic Wars that weakened Britain's main European competitors and allowed Britain to become a superpower in the Nineteenth Century.

Cheers,
Nigel.

The UK even benefitted from American independance directly.
Buisness as usual continued in what made the colonies profitable (trade) whilst Britian no longer had to bother paying to maintain the colonies.


The main OTL ASB I think is Germany in WW2.


re: Obama. Not so much his being black but his name certainly. Osama/Obama....hmm....Tell someone back after 11/9/01 this and you'll start seeing silly FHs about teh moozlems winning.
 
Here are few random ones:

* Charles de Gaulle suffering over 80 known assassination attempts over his lifetime and none of them ever working...

* Mohandas K. Gandhi forcing the British Empire out of India without firing a single shot in anger or military force in general...

* Stallin being a devout Russian Orthodox seminary student becoming the leader of a Socialist Communist movement....

* Sergei Korolov, with little assistance, single-handedly beating the Americans, British, and French in launching a satellite, a manned flight (both male & female), et al. despite the West gaining amajority of the Nazi scientists after WWII...
 
re: Obama. Not so much his being black but his name certainly. Osama/Obama....hmm....Tell someone back after 11/9/01 this and you'll start seeing silly FHs about teh moozlems winning.

You mean, something like this:

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Cheers,
Nigel.
 
The (arguably) illegitimate daughter of a king commended for his devout catholicism by the Pope is locked away as a protestant by her sister only to be spared by the intervention of her brother-in-law (who is largely absent from the country by virtue of being among the most powerful catholic monarchs in Europe) and eventually succeeds to the throne and rules in her own right for more than forty years.
 
The D-day invasion actually working. People talk about how unlikely Sealion's success was, but honestly D-days odds weren't a lot better. Especially with how bad the weather was. Plus, Rommel was on leave during the invasion, a stroke of luck that big has to be ASB.
 

wormyguy

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How about this guy?


"According to official Luftwaffe figures, Rudel flew some 2,530 combat missions (a world record)[5], during which he destroyed almost 2,000 ground targets (among them 519 tanks, 70 assault craft/landing boats, 150 self-propelled guns, 4 armored trains, and 800 other vehicles; as well as 9 planes (2 Il-2's and 7 fighters). He also sank a battleship, two cruisers and a destroyer. He was never shot down by another pilot, only by anti-aircraft artillery. He was shot down or forced to land 32 times (several times behind enemy lines), but always managed to escape capture despite a 100,000 ruble bounty placed on his head by Stalin himself. He was also wounded five times and rescued six stranded aircrew from enemy territory."


Seriously, over the course of the war, he destroyed an entire division worth of tanks, and a rather large flotilla of ships, among many other things. You'd think he was a Alien Space Bat himself.

Not to mention that in the final month of the war, he still destroyed 28 tanks. With one leg.

And "even climbing the highest peak in the Americas, Aconcagua (6,962 meters or 22,841 feet)." With one leg.

Unfortunately, he was also a true-believer, Hitler-loving, Holocaust denying, Nazi creep.
 
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