As Written By Churchill

This is my first take on the Alternate History scenarios so feel free to add and expand your ideas on a world where Winston Churchill is the Master of Alternate History.

1931 - Winston Churchill's essay entitled If Lee had not won the battle of Gettysburg is published on If It Had Happened Otherwise: Lapses Into Imaginary History. (Note that this actually happened in our reality)

1932 - Churchill failed to spoke about the dangers of Germany's rearmament after hearing the news about Germany having the right to military parity with France. With that, He decide to expand his 1931 essay into a novel known as Gettysburg Differed. (Note that this is the POD event as Churchill did spoke about the dangers in real life)

1934 - Gettysburg Differed is released to the public and archived success that leads him to resign his Political Career and continues writing stories involving alternate history. At that time, He's researching a history involving Adolf Hitler.

1936 - Leader In Session is released to the public documenting a alternate life of Adolf Hitler as an successful artist. The novel has caught the interest of actor Charlie Chaplin and decide to adapt the novel into a movie.

September 1, 1939 - Poland is invaded by Germany at that time. Winston Churchill went to the radio and said that he tried warn about them but if it wasn't for his writing career, the invasion would never happened.

May 1940 - Oswald Mosley succeeds as Prime Minister of London.

September 1940 to May 1941 - The Battle of London ends with Nazi Germany winning. Following that, Adolf Hitler traveled to London to greet the nation and have his first meeting Oswald Mosley at that time.

October 1941 - Adolf Hitler and Oswald Mosley traveled to Japan and meets Isoroku Yamamoto on their plans to invade the American Soils at that time. Days later, He sends his set of troops to Japan and with Yamamoto's permission, The troops became allied with Japanese soldiers.

December 7, 1941 - The Axis Attack of Pearl Harbor occurs as Japanese and Nazi Fighters invade Pearl Harbor at that time. Following that, President Wendell Willkie decided that the Americans will now be involved in the second world war.

February 1942 - The Battle of Los Angeles occurs. A week later, Winston Churchill decides to begin his trilogy epic known as The Great War Beyond which rewrites the then-current war with Aliens involved.

April 30, 1945 - Adolf Hitler and his wife Unity Mitford committed suicide at the time. Upon hearing it, Winston Churchill changed the ending to the second novel which involves Hitler faking his death and is actually a Mrokaggian conqueror.

August 6, 1945 - The atomic bombing of Tokyo successfully ended the second world war.

1946 - The Great War Beyond: The Land & The Sea is released to the public.

1947 - The Great War Beyond: Days Of The Valkyrie is released to the public.

1948 - The Great War Beyond: The Atomic Twilight is released to the public.

1950 - Republic Pictures begin its serial adaptation of The Great War Beyond: The Land & The Sea. Unlike the novel, The movie serial is taking on a science fiction hero approach similar to Flash Gordon and set the movie in a future rather than an alternate history. Winston Churchill distance himself from the adaptation and instead is writing a novel involving his imaginary life as a Prime Minister.

June 1953 - Winston Churchill suffered a stroke which halts his unfinished novel. Weeks after the stroke, He slowly begins finishing the novel while writing ideas for future project after the novel is completed.

September 5, 1953 - Winston Churchill makes a rare appearance in the 11th World Science Fiction Convention for the first Hugo Award. He won the award for The Great War Beyond trilogy and is claimed by the press as "The Master of Alternate History".

December 1956 - Not long after finishing the novel in draft form, Winston Churchill again suffered a stroke and died at the age of 82.

1959 - My So-Called Political Life is released to the public. Around that time, Winston's ideas for future projects is taken the use of several science-fiction writers including L. Ron Hubbard, Issac Asimov and Philip K. Dick and written their projects in the spirit of the great British Sci-Fi novelist.

1979 - Steven Spielberg and George Lucas co-direct 1941 which involves the comedic take on The Battle of Los Angeles that's inspired in parts by The Great War Beyond: The Land & The Sea. It is not financially successful but grew into cult hit through Betamax and Laserdisc sales in the following years.

1994 - Inspired by the works of Winston Churchill, Harry Turtledove decide to continue the spirit and decides to make Alternate History novels himself. He started it with The Second Great War series which is expanded from Churchill's The Great War Beyond trilogy.

2011 - Jonathan Liebesman faithfully adapted The Great War Beyond trilogy with The Great War Beyond: Los Angeles starring Christian Bale, Jordana Brewster and Seth Rogen. It is financially successful and leads to the booming of Alternate History movies at that time.

Note that since this is a alternate history, I speculate that L. Ron Hubbard is still a writer while Betamax and Laserdisc is the major medium there. :)
 
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I think a more realistic way of doing this would have been Gallipoli killing Churchill's career more than OTL and he becomes a writer.
 
Gettysburg Differed is released to the public and archived success that leads him to resign his Political Career and continues writing stories involving alternate history. At that time, He's researching a history involving Adolf Hitler.
WHAT??? Why would Winston Churchill, a man hellbent on becoming prime minister, suddenly become a novelist in a totally obscure genre that could never garner him the same success as his long political career?
 
Hitler attacking the US (especially at Pearl Harbour) makes this utterly ASB.

Not if given the right circumstances. It would be merely improbable to have happened, not against the laws of physics and science, which means that it's not ASB, but it is implausible and unlikely.
 
1979 - Steven Spielberg and George Lucas co-direct 1941 which involves the comedic take on The Battle of Los Angeles
Another thing how can there be a comedic take on a Battle that supposedly is the first Battle between America and a foreign power, albeit Nazi's in the Pacifc, where America fends off the invading power and Steven Spielberg and George Lucas write a comedy about it? All other things aside the movie would have to be a drama at least.
 
WHAT??? Why would Winston Churchill, a man hellbent on becoming prime minister, suddenly become a novelist in a totally obscure genre that could never garner him the same success as his long political career?

I agree with the observation. I would think he would just use the example of Benjamin Disraeli and become both prime minister and a noted writer.
 
Hitler attacking the US (especially at Pearl Harbour) makes this utterly ASB.
I agree. Why would he go halfway around the world?

I agree with the observation. I would think he would just use the example of Benjamin Disraeli and become both prime minister and a noted writer.
True. He almost did iOTL; have you ever read his excellently-written History of the English-Speaking Peoples?
 
Not if given the right circumstances. It would be merely improbable to have happened, not against the laws of physics and science, which means that it's not ASB, but it is implausible and unlikely.
Excuse me. For starters, Pearl Harbour is in the wrong friggin' ocean, then figure in that the British would be hell-bent on smashing any German ship to even attempt a break-out, and finally, German had no aircraft carriers.
 
I've reupdated my timeline with Oswald Mosley becoming PM, Germany won the Battle of London and Hitler and Mosley's trip to Japan that might sets a explanation for the Axis Attack on Pearl Harbor.

Also I say this again, Feel free to add/expand your ideas on the timeline so I could add your events on the timeline. And lastly...

WHAT??? Why would Winston Churchill, a man hellbent on becoming prime minister, suddenly become a novelist in a totally obscure genre that could never garner him the same success as his long political career?

I use the Point-of-Divergence on 1932 since in real life, He did speak about the dangers of Germany's rearmament. Plus he writes books on real life as based on this link and note that he only write essay involving an alternate history (while others are non-fiction except Savrola) so it is fun to make him "The Master of Alternate History" in this timeline instead of Turtledove.
 
I've reupdated my timeline with Oswald Mosley becoming PM, Germany won the Battle of London and Hitler and Mosley's trip to Japan that might sets a explanation for the Axis Attack on Pearl Harbor.

Man, this is full of plot holes. Then again, you are kind of new. Maybe you should look around the forum more to flesh out your ideas and see if they're alright or not.

1) With Oswald Mosley in power, why the hell would Hitler want to invade Britain? Hell, Mosley could have easily formed an alliance with Hitler on a piece of paper, no questions asked. Sealion would be redundant.

2) Wouldn't it be easier if the unholy Anglo-Nazi alliance took on the Yanks from the Eastern seaboard?

(There would have been another question regarding the naval capacity to carry out this invasion, but I remembered that the Anglo-Nazi alliance has the Royal Navy, which unfortunately has carriers and a fair amphibious capacity. Even then, it probably wouldn't be enough to take on the US Navy)

3) You seem hell bent on poking fun at that terrible alien invasion movie "Battle: Los Angeles", right? It's evident from the numerous references here and there in the TL right down to the director.

4) What about the Soviets? Have you forgotten about them? IIRC Hitler was hell bent on wiping the Soviet Union off the map, hence OTL Barbarossa. He would have thought the Soviet Union to be an easier target compared to a massive amphibious invasion of the USA

I use the Point-of-Divergence on 1932 since in real life, He did speak about the dangers of Germany's rearmament. Plus he writes books on real life as based on this link and note that he only write essay involving an alternate history (while others are non-fiction except Savrola) so it is fun to make him "The Master of Alternate History" in this timeline instead of Turtledove.

The premise is kind of interesting. It's difficult but not Sealion-impossible. Try to use less of the butterfly effect after the POD and more of logical cause and effect. The TL thus far looks kind of good for the ASB section though.
 
WTF, Mosley was in Prison in may 1940, there's no friggin' way he's going to be Prime Minister, not in a million years.

In real life, He may be in prison. But in a world where Churchill was never PM, He may be Prime Minister instead.

Man, this is full of plot holes. Then again, you are kind of new. Maybe you should look around the forum more to flesh out your ideas and see if they're alright or not.

Well, It's true I'm new and I do have to look around the forum more. But since you mentioned Plotholes...

1) With Oswald Mosley in power, why the hell would Hitler want to invade Britain? Hell, Mosley could have easily formed an alliance with Hitler on a piece of paper, no questions asked. Sealion would be redundant.

Good point on that. Let's say that Oswald's attitude is a bit different after the POD point because while he is fascist in real life, He may not be in this timeline.

2) Wouldn't it be easier if the unholy Anglo-Nazi alliance took on the Yanks from the Eastern seaboard?

(There would have been another question regarding the naval capacity to carry out this invasion, but I remembered that the Anglo-Nazi alliance has the Royal Navy, which unfortunately has carriers and a fair amphibious capacity. Even then, it probably wouldn't be enough to take on the US Navy)

Again, Good point on that. I do honestly say that my timeline is unfinished so I may fix it up shortly.

3) You seem hell bent on poking fun at that terrible alien invasion movie "Battle: Los Angeles", right? It's evident from the numerous references here and there in the TL right down to the director.

Well, I do like to poke fun and know that it's based upon the actual Battle of LA so it's not really a plothole in my opinion. But since I throw in George Lucas as co-director of 1941, Why not make Jonathan Liebesman a good director in a alternate reality?

4) What about the Soviets? Have you forgotten about them? IIRC Hitler was hell bent on wiping the Soviet Union off the map, hence OTL Barbarossa. He would have thought the Soviet Union to be an easier target compared to a massive amphibious invasion of the USA

Since I said that my timeline is unfinished, I am thinking of the Soviet Union and its involvement in WWII so do expect them in the timeline soon.

The premise is kind of interesting. It's difficult but not Sealion-impossible. Try to use less of the butterfly effect after the POD and more of logical cause and effect. The TL thus far looks kind of good for the ASB section though.

If I think of another timeline, I'll try to use the logical cause and effect approach and less of the Butterfly Effect.
 

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Not if given the right circumstances. It would be merely improbable to have happened, not against the laws of physics and science, which means that it's not ASB, but it is implausible and unlikely.


The Empire of Japan was overstretched, resource-poor and there's the whole question of where they would have found troops. Not to mention the fact that even before reinforcement American forces on the Island would have heavily outnumbered the handful of troops the Japanese would have been able to scrap together.

And Germany wouldn't have been able to do much more in the Pacific than it did, which is to say virtually nothing.

Japan managed to score a few successes at first when they went up against poorly equipped troops and caught them by surprise but once the Industrial might of the US got into full gear they were already beaten it was just a matter of time.

Besides, why would you want the Empire of Japan to get stronger? They were genocidal sons-of-bitches who raped, murdered and tortured their way through Asia and worked their prisoners to death.
 
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