As to Acadia so to Quebec

raharris1973

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It could take away some motivators of US revolution

but if it did come to revolution over the remaining reasons, I think the English replacement colonists would have remained loyal. Historically, the newer British colonies like Nova Scotia and Georgia were more loyalist.
 

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That's a question

Will Spain allow the refugees to come to the Louisiana territory it acquired.

Or are we making an earlier POD where France loses Quebec but keeps Louisiana, which I DO think would make expulsion more likely.
 

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What kind of how?

How does France keep Louisiana, or how does France keeping Louisiana make expulsion more likely?

- PoD for the first would be that instead of trading Guadalupe back for the territory between the Appalachians and Mississippi, Britain keeps Guadalupe.
My understanding is that as of 1763 in OTL, Britain had occupied Quebec and Montreal, and south of the Great Lakes it occupied parts of current day Ohio, but by no means had they occupied any territory in the Mississippi Valley portion of New France.

- If France had kept Louisiana, which pre-1763 included areas east of the big river as well as west, an expulsion of the Quebecois would have been more likely because of British and colonial fear that the French populace would find succor from nearby French territory, and threaten to undermine the British grip.

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If your PoD is expelling the French right after the treaty of 1763, then the French have only Caribbean locales like Haiti, Guyana or Guadalupe to run to. Not much use for lots of white people there. So then there's moving back to France.

They only get to move to New Orleans if the Spaniards are sweethearts and let them into that territory, which they now own.
 

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or why not simply have quebec's population expelled then britain decides to free the salves and puts them up north in Quebec and Acadia in the colony of Liberia?
 

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The scattering could be plausible

Where its given as a choice - Quebecois may occupy some frontier lands, and some depressed area on the Atlantic seaboard, but there are many others, English, Germans, Scots-Irish, who are going to the same areas and who make sure there's no strong French Catholic majority over a wide area. So you end up with more familiarity of Americans with Catholicism, and a redneck-Cajun cultural mix.
Pennsylvania, Maryland, and the Deep South are probably the areas that would freak out the least about French scattering. New England will not be accepting anyone, nor will upstate New York. They remember when ol Pierre came a raiding with the Hurons.
 
Have the British attack on Havana defeated. Spain keeps Florida and France keeps Louisiana. Quebecous prefer to be under French rule therefore immigrate gradually to Louisiana rather than be forced out at once.
 
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