As Dreamers Do Part Deux

@WB18
This is the current WLAF alignment as of 2004
European
Amsterdam Admirals
Barcelona Dragons
Frankfurt Galaxy
London Monarchs
Rhein Fire
Scottish Claymores

Atlantic
Baltimore Ravens
Birmingham Maulers
NY/NJ Knights
Orlando Thunder
Philadelphia Stars
Toronto Huskies

Central
Chicago Blitz
Memphis Pharaohs
Mexico City Luchadores
Oklahoma Outlaws
San Antonio Texans
St. Louis Stallions

Pacific
Las Vegas Wranglers
Los Angeles Avengers
Oakland Condors
Portland Breakers
Spokane Steelheads
Vancouver Orcas

Here is the proposed realignment for 2005
European Conference
Division A

Amsterdam Admirals
Frankfurt Galaxy
Rhein Fire

Division B
Barcelona Dragons
London Monarchs
Scottish Claymores

Expansion (Four slots)
- Paris, France
- Brussels, Belgium
- Cologne, Germany
- Hamburg, Germany
- Rome, Italy
- Milan, Italy
- Dublin, Republic of Ireland
- Manchester, England
- Berlin, Germany
- Monte Carlo, Monaco
- Stockholm, Sweden

Eastern Conference
Division A

Baltimore Ravens
Chicago Blitz
Hartford Knights (Formerly NY/NJ)
Philadelphia Stars
Toronto Huskies

Division B
Birmingham Maulers
Memphis Pharaohs
Orlando Thunder
St. Louis Stallions

Expansion:
- Columbus, Ohio
- Louisville, KY
- Raleigh, NC
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- Windsor, Canada
- Richmond, VA

Western Conference
Division A

Tucson Wranglers (Formerly Las Vegas)
Mexico City Luchadores
Oklahoma Outlaws
San Antonio Texans
Expansion: Salt Lake City, UT

Division B
Oakland Condors
Portland Breakers
Spokane Steelheads
Vancouver Orcas
Los Angeles Avengers
 
@WB18
This is the current WLAF alignment as of 2004
European
Amsterdam Admirals
Barcelona Dragons
Frankfurt Galaxy
London Monarchs
Rhein Fire
Scottish Claymores

Atlantic
Baltimore Ravens
Birmingham Maulers
NY/NJ Knights
Orlando Thunder
Philadelphia Stars
Toronto Huskies

Central
Chicago Blitz
Memphis Pharaohs
Mexico City Luchadores
Oklahoma Outlaws
San Antonio Texans
St. Louis Stallions

Pacific
Las Vegas Wranglers
Los Angeles Avengers
Oakland Condors
Portland Breakers
Spokane Steelheads
Vancouver Orcas

Here is the proposed realignment for 2005
European Conference
Division A

Amsterdam Admirals
Frankfurt Galaxy
Rhein Fire

Division B
Barcelona Dragons
London Monarchs
Scottish Claymores

Expansion (Four slots)
- Paris, France
- Brussels, Belgium
- Cologne, Germany
- Hamburg, Germany
- Rome, Italy
- Milan, Italy
- Dublin, Republic of Ireland
- Manchester, England
- Berlin, Germany
- Monte Carlo, Monaco
- Stockholm, Sweden

Eastern Conference
Division A

Baltimore Ravens
Chicago Blitz
Hartford Knights (Formerly NY/NJ)
Philadelphia Stars
Toronto Huskies

Division B
Birmingham Maulers
Memphis Pharaohs
Orlando Thunder
St. Louis Stallions

Expansion:
- Columbus, Ohio
- Louisville, KY
- Raleigh, NC
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- Windsor, Canada
- Richmond, VA

Western Conference
Division A

Tucson Wranglers (Formerly Las Vegas)
Mexico City Luchadores
Oklahoma Outlaws
San Antonio Texans
Expansion: Salt Lake City, UT

Division B
Oakland Condors
Portland Breakers
Spokane Steelheads
Vancouver Orcas
Los Angeles Avengers
Maybe we could have have a Welsh representative among the expansion?

Speaking of which by this point in OTL, the British Elite Ice Hockey League started and maybe we could see a stronger start from it with perhaps more teams being included, top league of 16 to 18 teams with maybe the possibility of a pyramid system being introduced to British Ice Hockey and an interesting set of butterflies going forward. Could help you out on this if you'd like?
 
Maybe we could have have a Welsh representative among the expansion?

Speaking of which by this point in OTL, the British Elite Ice Hockey League started and maybe we could see a stronger start from it with perhaps more teams being included, top league of 16 to 18 teams with maybe the possibility of a pyramid system being introduced to British Ice Hockey and an interesting set of butterflies going forward. Could help you out on this if you'd like?
Cardiff is the big city in Wales right? Or is there somewhere bigger?

How many teams did the EIHL have in Scotland IOTL? I wanted to make sure either Edinburgh or Glasgow got a team unless they're big enough for both to each have one.
 
Oldnavy do you have any think planed on the themepark front. HongKong disney opened in 2005 otl. I wonder If it still opening on when it otl or if Disneyland syndy has delyed of butteflied disneyland hong kong. Ps I would pefer the idea of moving disneyland hong kong to somewehre like dubia Jeju south Korea (it is a resort hot spot and not a nature persve) Prague Tiawan or Poland
 
Oldnavy do you have any think planed on the themepark front. HongKong disney opened in 2005 otl. I wonder If it still opening on when it otl or if Disneyland syndy has delyed of butteflied disneyland hong kong. Ps I would pefer the idea of moving disneyland hong kong to somewehre like dubia Jeju south Korea (it is a resort hot spot and not a nature persve) Prague Tiawan or Poland
Disneyland Hong Kong might still be in the works, but it'll likely be delayed.
 
Disneyland Hong Kong might still be in the works, but it'll likely be delayed.
I pefer to replace disneyland hong with a reopenig of the defunt Lai Chi Amusment park (The owner of lia chia park offte proposal to the hong kong goverment to build a park on Lantau Island. but he lost the biding war to disney ) or with a park by Bally Six King Universal or Parmont. If hong kong disney is butterflied I hope disney opens in somewhere else like dubia Jeju south Korea (it is a resort hot spot and not a nature persve) Prague Tiawan or Poland Eygpt or Argentina

 
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@WB18
This is the current WLAF alignment as of 2004
European
Amsterdam Admirals
Barcelona Dragons
Frankfurt Galaxy
London Monarchs
Rhein Fire
Scottish Claymores

Atlantic
Baltimore Ravens
Birmingham Maulers
NY/NJ Knights
Orlando Thunder
Philadelphia Stars
Toronto Huskies

Central
Chicago Blitz
Memphis Pharaohs
Mexico City Luchadores
Oklahoma Outlaws
San Antonio Texans
St. Louis Stallions

Pacific
Las Vegas Wranglers
Los Angeles Avengers
Oakland Condors
Portland Breakers
Spokane Steelheads
Vancouver Orcas

Here is the proposed realignment for 2005
European Conference
Division A

Amsterdam Admirals
Frankfurt Galaxy
Rhein Fire

Division B
Barcelona Dragons
London Monarchs
Scottish Claymores

Expansion (Four slots)
- Paris, France
- Brussels, Belgium
- Cologne, Germany
- Hamburg, Germany
- Rome, Italy
- Milan, Italy
- Dublin, Republic of Ireland
- Manchester, England
- Berlin, Germany
- Monte Carlo, Monaco
- Stockholm, Sweden

Eastern Conference
Division A

Baltimore Ravens
Chicago Blitz
Hartford Knights (Formerly NY/NJ)
Philadelphia Stars
Toronto Huskies

Division B
Birmingham Maulers
Memphis Pharaohs
Orlando Thunder
St. Louis Stallions

Expansion:
- Columbus, Ohio
- Louisville, KY
- Raleigh, NC
- San Juan, Puerto Rico
- Windsor, Canada
- Richmond, VA

Western Conference
Division A

Tucson Wranglers (Formerly Las Vegas)
Mexico City Luchadores
Oklahoma Outlaws
San Antonio Texans
Expansion: Salt Lake City, UT

Division B
Oakland Condors
Portland Breakers
Spokane Steelheads
Vancouver Orcas
Los Angeles Avengers
1. Oh hell yeah, WLAF to Tucson baby! (Maybe bring back the Arizona Wranglers name instead of Tucson Wranglers)

2. Wales would make a good spot for a team, but I’d go with Paris and Milan for expansion spots in Europe.

3. As for the Eastern US Expansion, I’d go with Raleigh or Richmond to get the league more into the mid-Atlantic.

4. Maybe push the expansion back to 2006 rather than 2005 since this hasn’t been talked about earlier. (Except the Wranglers relocation of course)
 
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Cardiff is the big city in Wales right? Or is there somewhere bigger?

How many teams did the EIHL have in Scotland IOTL? I wanted to make sure either Edinburgh or Glasgow got a team unless they're big enough for both to each have one.
Yes, Cardiff is the capital of Wales.

There was a time that Scotland had four teams in the EIHL being Edinburgh Capitals who joined in 2005, Glasgow Clan (named originally Braehead Clan) and joined in 2010, Dundee Stars, joined also in 2010 and finally my home team Fife Flyers joining in 2011.

Edinburgh Capitals went bust in 2018 and since them there are only three Scottish representatives though there has been talk to bring Aberdeen Lynx into the EIHL for years, maybe better chance here.

Also, maybe if the league is done well then it might prevent teams like Newcastle Vipers, Manchester and Edinburgh going bust in the early years of the league.
@QTXAdsy

Also, did the IOTL EIHL have any British born players or were most of the talent pool North American born?
I'd say more with the latter though only a handful of teams attempt home grown talent. Maybe at the start there could be a rule to force teams to have at least four players in a team instead a team full if imports which could have some interesting butterfly effects for the GB National Ice Hockey team many years down the line.

In conclusion, we could see ITTL by 2022 a EIHL top flight of 18 teams being that of Aberdeen Lynx, Blackburn Hawks, Belfast Giants, Basingstoke Bison, Bracknell Bees, Cardiff Devils Coventry Blaze, Edinburgh Capitals, Dundee Stars, Fife Flyers, Guildford Flames, Hull Jets, Manchester Storm, Milton Keynes Lightning, Newcastle Vipers, Nottingham Panthers and Sheffield Steelers.

That is just an example, maybe you could have expansion for teams for either in London, Liverpool, Peterborough or in Wales with either teams for Swansea and Wrexham and there has been talk about a team from Dublin competing though that in itself is a bit up in the air.

Hopefully that all helps.
 
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