Does the increased popularity of Superman have an increased effect on the National v. Facwett court case?
As Dreamers Do: American Magic Redux
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I read that walter Lantz productions was working on an feature length adlain film starin Abbott and Costello, and Frank Churchill but it was canccled due to mr bug bombing
Hey, there's an idea. Maybe ITTL, it can succeed. Also, hope everyone liked my Superman movie intro idea. Also, Paramount needs to convince Max Fleischer that Batman is a good investment and fast.
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I think the Abbott/Costello project from Lantz may have to wait with the war coming up.
I am honestly not too knowledgeable about the National/Fawcett feud to give a good answer on that first question.
@Igeo654
I think that intro concept can be saved for a later Superman production. Might sound a little too modern for the early Forties.
I think that intro concept can be saved for a later Superman production. Might sound a little too modern for the early Forties.
Post-war, do you think? Maybe 1950 or something? I assume the Superman shorts will still be made so audiences won't be starved for Superman content.
As for the other guys, Leon Schlesinger should get Timely on the phone. See if they can't go about making some Human Torch Cartoons. Batman needs to be done by Fleisher.
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Sounds about right, and it'll likely still have a big band/jazz sound.
Depending on what happens with the war, it might not be too long.
In hindsight, Schlesinger would have an even bigger reason to side with Timely once the war breaks out and Captain America becomes big. At that point, either he never sells the studio to Warner or he sells it anyway and Warner ends up owning Marvel. Probably the latter. As for Fleisher, I still hold out hope that in the same way Disney broke free of RKO (or United Artists in this case), they'll soon become self-distributing somehow. Become Disney's biggest rivals, etc.
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Sooner or later, Walt will indeed break free of UA, probably sometime after the war.
@Igeo654
And let's not forget there may still be a chance Harman and Ising can break free from Fred Quimby and MGM. Same with Bill and Joe a little later.
And let's not forget there may still be a chance Harman and Ising can break free from Fred Quimby and MGM. Same with Bill and Joe a little later.
Sounds like Dumbo to me. Here's an idea. Maybe Fleisher should be the ones to make Alice in Wonderland. Beat Disney to the punch. At any rate, it'd allow Disney to try something else.
Dumbo (1941 Film)
Dumbo
Released on October 23, 1941 by Walt Disney thru United Artists.
Based on a book by Helen Aberson and Harold Pearl.
Directors
Ben Sharpsteen
Otto Englander
Story
Joe Grant
Dick Huemer
Supervising Animators
Wolfgang Reitherman
Ward Kimball
Bill Tytla
Art Babbitt
Fred Moore
John Lounsbery
Voices
Sterling Holloway as Mr. Stork
Verna Felton as the Matriarch Elephant
Edward Brophy as Timothy Q. Mouse
Herman Bing as the Ringmaster
The Crows
Cab Calloway
Nick Stewart
Hall Johnson
James Baskett
Jim Carmichael
The Elephants
Noreen Gammill
Dorothy Scott
Sarah Shelby
In its theatrical debut, Dumbo was the Kryptonite to Superman's box office bliss, knocking the Paramount/Fleischer film down from #1 to #2 at the box office. Universal's Wolf Man would push Superman further down the charts the following month.
Dumbo was scheduled to grace the cover of TIME Magazine, but of course, that didn't happen.
Released on October 23, 1941 by Walt Disney thru United Artists.
Based on a book by Helen Aberson and Harold Pearl.
Directors
Ben Sharpsteen
Otto Englander
Story
Joe Grant
Dick Huemer
Supervising Animators
Wolfgang Reitherman
Ward Kimball
Bill Tytla
Art Babbitt
Fred Moore
John Lounsbery
Voices
Sterling Holloway as Mr. Stork
Verna Felton as the Matriarch Elephant
Edward Brophy as Timothy Q. Mouse
Herman Bing as the Ringmaster
The Crows
Cab Calloway
Nick Stewart
Hall Johnson
James Baskett
Jim Carmichael
The Elephants
Noreen Gammill
Dorothy Scott
Sarah Shelby
In its theatrical debut, Dumbo was the Kryptonite to Superman's box office bliss, knocking the Paramount/Fleischer film down from #1 to #2 at the box office. Universal's Wolf Man would push Superman further down the charts the following month.
Dumbo was scheduled to grace the cover of TIME Magazine, but of course, that didn't happen.
One fine day at Termite Terrace
Termite Terrace aka Leon Schlesinger Productions
Staff Meeting
November 3, 1941
LEON SCHLESINGER
"Okay, so Fleischer's doin' well with Superman and Disney's doin' well with Dumbo. Now I think I have an idea for a feature cartoon. How many of you guys remember that story Alice in Wonderland?"
CHUCK JONES
"Not me. Haven't really thought about it in ages."
TEX AVERY
"Paramount made a version a few years back that was pretty good."
BOB CLAMPETT
"I think I can make the material work as a movie."