Arthur Tudor questions

Question for you all, and I know this has been asked before I think?

Well it's really two questions.
The first is, what if Catherine gives birth to a post humous son of Arthur's in either 1502 or 1503? What does this do for England the succession, wouyld Henry VII perhaps live longer, would Elizabeth? Who'd be named regent for the boy when Henry eventually clocks it?

Secondly, what if in a reverse of fortune, the sweating illness that got Arthur either got Catherine or perhaps Henry VII? What does this do for England?
 
Question for you all, and I know this has been asked before I think?

Well it's really two questions.
The first is, what if Catherine gives birth to a posthumous son of Arthur's in either 1502 or 1503? What does this do for England the succession, would Henry VII perhaps live longer, would Elizabeth? Who'd be named regent for the boy when Henry eventually clocks it?

Secondly, what if in a reverse of fortune, the sweating illness that got Arthur either got Catherine or perhaps Henry VII? What does this do for England?
Henry VII died of TB so the only effect a son of Arthur and Catherine might have are the butterflies. As for Elizabeth, it is possible that her death would be delayed since she supposedly did die of a 'broken heart'.

As for regent, the possibilities are Elizabeth (if she goes on to survive Henry VII), possibly Catherine herself, Wolsey (as he more or less did for Henry VIII IOTL) or any of the other prominent figures in the court of Henry VII.

If it kills Henry VII, then Arthur comes to throne with Catherine as Queen. Its unlikely, but not impossibility, that Arthur would have pursued the same aggressive search for an air that Henry VIII (not least because he's more likely to have an heir) so England would have remained Catholic, with close ties to Spain and the Habsburgs, and a continued opposition to the French.

If it kills Catherine, then England needs a new wife for the heir to the throne. Either way, England is once again likely to remain Catholic and would no doubt have close ties to which ever country's princess the new wife comes from.
 
Henry VII died of TB so the only effect a son of Arthur and Catherine might have are the butterflies. As for Elizabeth, it is possible that her death would be delayed since she supposedly did die of a 'broken heart'.

As for regent, the possibilities are Elizabeth (if she goes on to survive Henry VII), possibly Catherine herself, Wolsey (as he more or less did for Henry VIII IOTL) or any of the other prominent figures in the court of Henry VII.

If it kills Henry VII, then Arthur comes to throne with Catherine as Queen. Its unlikely, but not impossibility, that Arthur would have pursued the same aggressive search for an air that Henry VIII (not least because he's more likely to have an heir) so England would have remained Catholic, with close ties to Spain and the Habsburgs, and a continued opposition to the French.

If it kills Catherine, then England needs a new wife for the heir to the throne. Either way, England is once again likely to remain Catholic and would no doubt have close ties to which ever country's princess the new wife comes from.

Alright interesting, Elizabeth as regent could be quite interesting, I do wonder if we might see her have some political muscle for her grandson, or if she and Catherine would start arguing over things?

Agreed there re Arthur and Catherine, would they need a regent if Henry dies in 1502, with Arthur only being 16?
 
Alright interesting, Elizabeth as regent could be quite interesting, I do wonder if we might see her have some political muscle for her grandson, or if she and Catherine would start arguing over things?

Agreed there re Arthur and Catherine, would they need a regent if Henry dies in 1502, with Arthur only being 16?
Hard to say, Catherine would be relatively young though so initially Elizabeth might have had control.

Probably not, the medieval age of majority was 16, but a powerful figure behind the throne is likely.
 
Hard to say, Catherine would be relatively young though so initially Elizabeth might have had control.

Probably not, the medieval age of majority was 16, but a powerful figure behind the throne is likely.

Very true, hmm which would be more interesting in your view?
 
I don’t claim a deep knowledge of Henry VIII’s military prowess and blood over merit goes a long way in the 16th century but wasn’t he a bit naff as a commander? There’s obvious reasons a king will lead his army but would you hand it off to your younger brother with no obvious talent over, say, a noble who is a known quantity?
 
I don’t claim a deep knowledge of Henry VIII’s military prowess and blood over merit goes a long way in the 16th century but wasn’t he a bit naff as a commander? There’s obvious reasons a king will lead his army but would you hand it off to your younger brother with no obvious talent over, say, a noble who is a known quantity?

Eh, if Arthur decides early the he wants Henry for the job I’m sure he’d see to it that Henry gets the education for it. And what ever Henry VIII’s issues OTL were he wasn’t stupid, (stubborn and hated be wrong, but not stupid) so he should be able to pick up military strategy and be okay.

And half of Military strategy is luck, ex. Hannibal is known for defeating Rome with a numerically smaller force, but historians today still can’t decided if it was luck or genius that let him win.
 
If Catherine dies, then I'll suggest that Arthur marries Elizabeth of Denmark.
Pretty sure Henry VII will try to get another daughter-in-law with Lancastrian’s blood and the only ones available who have the right age are Emperor Maximilian’s Bavarian nieces... That or trying to get a promise of Eleanor or Isabella of Burgundy for Arthur’s future son who can be replaced later by their not-yet born younger sisters Maria or Catalina or cousin Beatrice of Portugal (not Beatrice’s elder sister Isabella as she would be destined to marry the next King of Spain)
 
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