BlackDragon98
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Goering flexs his fat belly and orders more for the Luftwaffe.
AC gets cancelled by his flex
Army equipment that shouldn't have seen service
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AC gets cancelled by his flex
Deleted member 1487
Why? The Ju87 already did what was needed just as well if not better.
War was imminent, there wasn't time to redesign the weapon for imperial tooling and a new calibre so they just took the Besa as is.
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The Royal Armoured Corps also had a supply chain that was separate from the Infantry's, so it was less of a problem to supply the BESA, which was used as a tank machine gun with correct ammunition as well.
BlackDragon98
Banned
Ju 87 could not carry a 1000 kg bomb or a torpedo.
And it was pretty short ranged only around 500 km without extra fuel tanks.
Also, the Fi 167 had better low speed capabilities.
A Croatian pilot shot down an P-51 Mustang using an Fi 167 in the closing days of the war.
The British knew they wanted a self loading rifle before long and the rimmed .303 was less than ideal for that role. It could do it but their were better options.
Ju 87 certainly could carry a 1000 kg bomb or a torpedo. The Ju 87R (basically the Ju 87B with drop tank facility) was rated for 1000 kg bomb + drop tanks. Ju 87 D was rated for 1800 kg bomb.
manual1 that covers PC 1000 RS bomb
manual2 (pg .28 and 29 covers allowed payload for the Ju 87R1)
a host of pictures where Ju 87 carries torpedo, sometimes also drop tanks + torpedo
Low speed capabilities of Ju 87 were excellent, even if not on level of a biplane. Rear gunners could and did make a kill vs. attacking fighters, nothing exceptionl there for the Fi 167.
BlackDragon98
Banned
They could?
I thought the Ju 87 could only carry a 500 kg bomb max.
But it's the model D we're talking about.
it arrived after BoF.
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Have you actually looked at the manuals that I've bothered to provide the links?
Deleted member 1487
The Ju87 replaced the Fiesler bomber as the choice for carrier dive bombers.
In other words - no, you did not read the manuals, not even the titles of the manuals I've provided the links. Neither the two tables that I've stated the page numbers.
Deleted member 1487
It could be made to work though, just make less sturdy Bren magazines for it. It would probably help to use a lighter bullet too to help with recoil and cost.
BlackDragon98
Banned
I can't read German.
I see the PC 1000 being mentioned but that pretty much it.
Carry one of those would limit range, you can't carry drop and a bomb that maxes out the plane's carry capability.
Junkers Ju 87 - Wikipedia
1000 kg bomb + two drop tanks on the Ju 87R, per data sheet as posted above.
"To prevent overload conditions, bomb carrying ability was often restricted to a single 250 kg (550 lb) bomb if the aircraft was fully loaded with fuel. "Junkers Ju 87 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Not all the targets need 1000 kg bombs to be used against them.
BlackDragon98
Banned
Still, flying a Ju 87 with 1000 kg bomb + two drop tanks is pretty risky.
I'd classify it as overloaded.
Almost no maneuverability, lower ceiling, and lower speed.
BlackDragon98
Banned
And plenty of escort fighters would be needed.
So, you're right in that it's possible for a Ju 87 to carry a 1000 kg bomb + two drop tanks or a torpedo + two drop tanks, but it isn't a good idea unless you're planning to blow a hole in the Maginot or one of the Belgian forts or sink some merchant ships. RN ships spew too much flak.