Anyway for French to of won French and Indian War?

France:Get your @r$e to Hanover so I can have the Southern Netherlands or you are getting nothing.
Austria:Me want Bavaria....
Bavaria:F#$k,do I have a choice?

France and Austria can't just invade and annex a place without a claim or reason. This isn't the Napoleonic Wars! It's also worth pointing out that the Convention of Klosterzeven didn't prevent the Hannoverians from having it.
 
France and Austria can't just invade and annex a place without a claim or reason. This isn't the Napoleonic Wars!
I did say strong arm.They are willing to pay a compensation for Bavaria's troubles,with Hanover.As for annexing a place without a claim or reason,look at the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

About East Prussia,what if the Russians exchange that for Courland like others suggested?Brandenburg will probably be irrelevant to them if this happens right?
 
I did say strong arm.They are willing to pay a compensation for Bavaria's troubles,with Hanover.As for annexing a place without a claim or reason,look at the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

About East Prussia,what if the Russians exchange that for Courland like others suggested?Brandenburg will probably be irrelevant to them if this happens right?

The first partition of Poland was justified by Polish civil wars and anarchy, to "restore order" to a troublesome neighbour. Bavaria has nothing equivalent. If they did this, I can really see a British-Russian alliance, backed by smaller powers, that would be very hostile to France and Austria.

As for the Russians, I don't believe they would swap Courland for Brandenburg. People saying that seem to be treating Poland as an independent power, and that Russia would want territorial contiguity. Actually, Russia would like to have a good reason to be marching troops back and forth through Poland, as it keeps Poland as a more compliant vassal. East Prussia also gives better power projection into central Europe.

The more I think about it, Saxony could be the answer:

1) Austrian Netherlands to France
2) Saxony and Silesia to Austria, with rights guaranteed for Protestants
3) East Prussia and Pomerania to Russia to keep them happy
4) Hannover to the Wettins, with bribes
5) Sweden screwed, but hey, they didn't contribute much
6) Britain with lots of new colonies
 
You guys are forgetting a thing: Brandenburg, Saxony and Hannover are all electorates of the HRE, you can't scrap one from the map and "compesate" with ... a pre-existant electorate.

EDIT: Also, Saxony was the first victim of Frederick's aggression, why are they losing land?

Also, why is Austria so cooperative with France? Their mutual enemy is dead, there is nothing holding them together and isn't like their relationship during the alliance was any friendly.
 
You guys are forgetting a thing: Brandenburg, Saxony and Hannover are all electorates of the HRE, you can't scrap one from the map and "compesate" with ... a pre-existant electorate.

EDIT: Also, Saxony was the first victim of Frederick's aggression, why are they losing land?

Also, why is Austria so cooperative with France? Their mutual enemy is dead, there is nothing holding them together and isn't like their relationship during the alliance was any friendly.
Imperial ban on Brandenburg and Hanover for fighting against their Emperor?As for France,I don't think they would leave Hanover unless they are given something as compensation for their troubles.
 
Which is why France was prepared to give Lingen-Tecklenburg, East Frisia and perhaps Minden and even the Altmark to Hanover to make Britain agree to the peace treaty.
So France doesn't gain anything despite 'winning' the war?

Seriously,what's with France fighting all these wars for other people in the 18th century(minus the War of Polish Succession) without bother to gain something for themselves?
 
Its gains originally were meant to be a puppet in the SOuthern Netherlands,but that was revoked in the 1758 treaty. They might renogiate their alliance with Austria so as to gain the Southern Netherlands. But most likely due to Austrian stubborness and Louis XV's foolishness France only gains a few border lands from Austrian Netherlands.
Seriously,the man's an idiot(only his grandson could be worse).Although,would Choiseul be able to persuade the king to take a tougher stance on the issue?
 
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Which is why France was prepared to give Lingen-Tecklenburg, East Frisia and perhaps Minden and even the Altmark to Hanover to make Britain agree to the peace treaty.

If the British are unwilling to sacrifice British colonial gains for their German King to get Hannover back, I don't see why the expansion of Hannover would molify them.
 
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