Flutterdashfanboy
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is there or were they doomed to be under spanish holdings until the 1700s? the reason I am asking this is because I have plans for an independent Italy for the TL I'm doing.
Or you could have Charles d'Anjou treating his Sicilian subjects more fairly and not trying to conquer Constantinople just after installing himself in the Kingdom of Sicily. That's should be enough to preempt the Sicilian vespers and Aragonese meddling in Southern Italy. This is however all way before the time period the op seems interested into. I think there is a chance by the mid xvii century to pass to a France prince, around the time of Masaniello's revolt, if Henry de Guise is more supported by Mazarin and acts as a better politician/diplomat. It is a very very long shot though... Maybe you could even have Cristina of Sweden crowned Queen of Naples (I love this POD personally, but I never managed to find a way to make it work realistically).One option is to kill Pope Urban IV before he excommunicates Manfred the Hohenstaufen King of Sicily.
Or you could have Charles d'Anjou treating his Sicilian subjects more fairly and not trying to conquer Constantinople just after installing himself in the Kingdom of Sicily. That's should be enough to preempt the Sicilian vespers and Aragonese meddling in Southern Italy. This is however all way before the time period the op seems interested into. I think there is a chance by the mid xvii century to pass to a France prince, around the time of Masaniello's revolt, if Henry de Guise is more supported by Mazarin and acts as a better politician/diplomat. It is a very very long shot though... Maybe you could even have Cristina of Sweden crowned Queen of Naples (I love this POD personally, but I never managed to find a way to make it work realistically).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_Republic_(1647)
Unfortunately in both cases the island of Sicily itself would be excluded and remain to Spain until something like otl's War of Spanish Succession.
One option is to kill Pope Urban IV before he excommunicates Manfred the Hohenstaufen King of Sicily.
is there or were they doomed to be under spanish holdings until the 1700s? the reason I am asking this is because I have plans for an independent Italy for the TL I'm doing.