Another USN ships POD based on battle names

OK, could any-1 design ATL specifications and accounts forUSN ships named after the following battles which haven't afaik been used to name US warships ?

HORSESHOE BEND
TIPPECANOE
FALLEN TIMBERS
TRIPOLI
NEWMARKET
MILLIKEN'S BEND
PORT HUDSON
POISON SPRINGS
FORT WAGNER (already discussed about a yr or so ago, but still included here)
OLUSTEE
PETERSBURG
APPOMATTOX
MANILA
CANTIGNY
CHATTEAU THIERRY
HAMEL
JAVA SEA
DIEPPE
BUNA
ORAN
KASSERINE PASS
SCHNEE EIFFEL
MOUNT BELVEDERE
REMAGEN
TORGAU
PUSAN
DA NANG
IA DRANG
KHE SANH
 
There have been two ships named USS Tripoli, a Casablanca-class escort carrier in service 1943-58, and an Iwo Jima class LPH in service from 1966-95.

My guess is that if there's another one, it'll be a ship with a substantial Marine Corps complement, probably another large amphibious warfare vessel of some kind (maybe a floating offshore base and airstrip or something like that).
 
several of those battles weren't really glorious feats of arms for the US... Fort Wagner? The US never took it. The Vietnam ones? We lost the war. Appomattox? Massive US forces overwhelmed that last dribble of Confederate troops. Kasserine Pass? A US defeat. Remagen? Again, massive US forces overwhelming a tiny enemy.

If you want a name that really reflects a hard won battle, how about ELSENBORN RIDGE?
 
several of those battles weren't really glorious feats of arms for the US... Fort Wagner? The US never took it. The Vietnam ones? We lost the war. Appomattox? Massive US forces overwhelmed that last dribble of Confederate troops. Kasserine Pass? A US defeat. Remagen? Again, massive US forces overwhelming a tiny enemy.

If you want a name that really reflects a hard won battle, how about ELSENBORN RIDGE?

Yes indeed Dave, I take your point. ELSENBORN RIDGE howevr would be q damn good battle name to use, given how tenaciously the 2nd INDIANHEAD and 99th CHECKERBOARD Divs held that ground against the Germans during the Bulge camapign in Dec 1944.

Well, it would've been cool to use the names of other great battles lfrom WWI like CHATEAU THIERRY or CANTIGNY in addition to OTL BELLEAU WOOD, or even successful Indian War battles like TIPPECANOE or HORSESHOE BEND. heym what about others like EL GUETTAR, SAN JUAN HILL, EL CANEY, DAIQUIRI or SANTO DOMINGO ?
 
I was sure there was an Aegis cruiser called Khe Sanh because I remember being surprised the USN would use the name. It appears though that I was mistaken, however a google search did bring up that the USS Peleliu was first to be USS Khe Sanh and then USS Da Nang.

I also find this thread an excuse to bring up my Naval POD's again.:cool:

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I liked the old way....Carriers after significant battles, battleships after states, cruisers after cities, subs after fishy stuff, destroyers after war heros. I know this isn't very inclusive, but I like the fact that any American can tell what a ship is by its name. I will grant an exclusion for the name Enterprise, which I rather like, since its been around a spell.

I apologize if this post is totally Americo-centric. I've had a beef about this for some time.:D
 
I liked the old way....Carriers after significant battles, battleships after states, cruisers after cities, subs after fishy stuff, destroyers after war heros. I know this isn't very inclusive, but I like the fact that any American can tell what a ship is by its name. I will grant an exclusion for the name Enterprise, which I rather like, since its been around a spell.

I apologize if this post is totally Americo-centric. I've had a beef about this for some time.:D

You think you're the only one? I'm still nursing a grudge about the ARW and even I think Lexington and Saratoga are better than Stennis and Vinson.

My list of names for USN carriers:

With a POD not before 1945 have the United States Navy launch it's first nuclear powered aircraft carrier in 1991 thirty years later than in OTL.

The first ship is the USS Saratoga and is followed in order by:

USS Lexington
USS Yorktown
USS Midway
USS Antietam
USS Coral Sea
USS Valley Forge
USS Shiloh

The Ships will suppliment the USN's existing conventional carriers built during the 1970's and 1980's:

USS Reprisal
USS Enterprise
USS Intrepid
USS Ranger
USS Constellation
USS Hornet
USS Wasp
USS Independence

As there are no more battleships I'd reasign State names to cruisers as SSN's aren't visible enough, and city names to destroyers.
 
Yeah, to my recollection I don't think there's been an Aegis cruiser named for Bastogne- though there have been USS NORMANDY (which launched cruise missiles at VRS positions during Op DELIBERATE FORCE in 1995) and PHILIPPINE SEA (performed likewise for Op ALLIED FORCE 1999 over Kosovo).

Hmmm, as for other navies' ships, damn it'd be cool for the RAN to have the following battle names somehow (given that Australia somehow had a large enough navy to accomodate so many ships);
GALLIPOLI
KOKODA
FROMELLES
POZIERES
BULLECOURT
MENIN ROAD/BROODSEINDE
POLYGON WOOD
BEESHEBA
VILLERS-BRETTONEUX
KAPYONG
LONG TAN

I've always fancied the 1st 2 names being for the RAN's carrier flagships (perhaps of the LPD class).
 
You think you're the only one? I'm still nursing a grudge about the ARW and even I think Lexington and Saratoga are better than Stennis and Vinson.

My list of names for USN carriers:



As there are no more battleships I'd reasign State names to cruisers as SSN's aren't visible enough, and city names to destroyers.

Your opinion has merit, but I just like the old ways. I do admit there will have to be changes.....
 
As there are no more battleships I'd reasign State names to cruisers as SSN's aren't visible enough, and city names to destroyers.
I've always liked DDs being named for USN officers. (Changing it'd wipe out Manert Abele, Howard Gilmore, or Dudley Morton getting ships named for them...:eek::mad:)
My suggestions for USN carriers:
BRANDYWINE
BREED'S HILL
BRANDY STATION
And what was the actual hill they charged in Cuba? It wasn't San Juan... Or, we could go the Wasp route: USS Yellowjacket, USS Tsetse, USS Anopheles :eek::p
 
Two of the Independence-class CVLs had their names changed before launching: Langley was originally going to be named Manila Bay (an escort carrier got the name later on), while Bataan was going to be Santiago (after the Naval Battle of Santiago de Cuba in 1898). As for an AEGIS cruiser: the one named for a Vietnam battle is Hue City, not Khe Sanh. Any future LHA-6 class ships could get Vietnam names (Con Thien would be a good choice, as the USMC held it and kept it after the siege, instead of abandoning it as with Khe Sanh). BTW LHA-6 is USS America. Though I would suggest more contemporary battles to name ships after (LHA-7 being named An Nasiriyah, or Khandahar, for example) There was an Essex-class carrier named Leyte (CV-32); fought in Korea, reroled as an ASW carrier after Korea until mothballed in 1959. If anyone's thinking Gettysburg, that's an AEGIS cruiser, as is Port Royal and Chancellorsville.

City names can go to a future SSN class (post-Virginia) with SSBNs taking on state names.
 
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