Another "SG:A" thread: A black Shepperd?

The "black McKay" thread got me to post this one.;)

After what happened to Ford (a dead-end role for Francks, & bad writing IMO:rolleyes:), I wondered why a better role hadn't been created. Why couldn't a black actor have been cast as Shepperd? (It's not like race made a difference, though I really liked Flanigan in the role.)

So, what would have been the effect? Who might have been cast?
 
less white supremist watch the show? Stargate is kind of racist when I think about it there are no real black characters, there's that primitive Jaffa they liberated, but even that still kinda racist because he's black and religious and they're saying that black people are stupid and need to be saved and carrying on that perpetuating stereotype rather than having a black scientist or a black SGA member.
 
So there's no benefit at all to TV or culture from having a black character in a leadership position. Yeah, okay, Nichelle Nichols & Avery Brooks added nothing.:rolleyes:
 
So there's no benefit at all to TV or culture from having a black character in a leadership position. Yeah, okay, Nichelle Nichols & Avery Brooks added nothing.:rolleyes:
Avery Brooks and and Nichelle Nichols added to TV and culture. I just don't see Sheppard having a different skin color having any major impact.
 
Alias said:
Avery Brooks and and Nichelle Nichols added to TV and culture. I just don't see Sheppard having a different skin color having any major impact.
:confused: So "SG:A" is just a Trivial Pursuit question, despite lasting five seasons?:rolleyes: And having a black character, & a black actor, in a leading role means nothing?:rolleyes:

Okay, now name another show that lasted five seasons with a black lead actor, besides "DS9" & "SG-1". (I can't think of one.) Name another SF series with a black actor in such an important role--arguably the most important. (With all respect to Chris Judge, he wasn't.)

I'm not saying "SG:A" had the impact of "DS9", but it rivals "B5" & "BSG", at the very least.
 
:confused: So "SG:A" is just a Trivial Pursuit question, despite lasting five seasons?:rolleyes: And having a black character, & a black actor, in a leading role means nothing?:rolleyes:

Okay, now name another show that lasted five seasons with a black lead actor, besides "DS9" & "SG-1". (I can't think of one.) Name another SF series with a black actor in such an important role--arguably the most important. (With all respect to Chris Judge, he wasn't.)

I'm not saying "SG:A" had the impact of "DS9", but it rivals "B5" & "BSG", at the very least.

Tyler Perry's House of Payne. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. The Cosby Show. Girlfriends. Amen. The Bernie Mac Show. My Wife and Kids. For a SF series there's Killjoys.
 
:confused: So "SG:A" is just a Trivial Pursuit question, despite lasting five seasons?:rolleyes: And having a black character, & a black actor, in a leading role means nothing?:rolleyes:
Exactly, give the man a prize!!!

The fact is, you have a racist outlook, and this is proven by the very nature of your question. For instance, your not asking what if "The Sheppard character had been cast to {insert specific BLACK actor}, how would this have changed things, but rather just a generic lets take a white role in OTL and make it a black roll in this ATL, and see what effect it has, just because they are BLACK.

That my friend, is a racist way of looking at things. And looking at your other two responses up thread, you seem to be thinking that its bad or insulting on other peoples part when they don't share in your opinion.

Now, on the other hand, if you had done something like:
What if "The Sheppard character had been cast to {James Earl Jones} or {Samuel E Jackson} or {Wessly Snipes} or {Eddie Murphy} or..."

But I think you can get the idea behind my post. Your post makes it all about race, and NOT about a difference in how the character would have been different, and how such differences would affect the rest of the cast (if any), nor how the show would have been different, but just maybe slightly altered demographics of the audience. Basically, you tossed out an idea based upon a racist outlook, and then got a bit miffed that folks think it would not have made much (if any) difference.

Okay, now name another show that lasted five seasons with a black lead actor, besides "DS9" & "SG-1". (I can't think of one.) Name another SF series with a black actor in such an important role--arguably the most important. (With all respect to Chris Judge, he wasn't.)
And again, WHY?

You seem to have an agenda, based upon a racist way of looking at things. The IDEA of trading out one of the main characters of my favorite TV series doesn't bother me a bit (I don't even know who the no-name guy that actually played "Sheppard" was), but if your going to talk about my favorite series, please bring some USEFUL content to the discussion.

For example, can you think of all the positive differences one of the American cultural icons I named, being put into the role? We all know that Eddie Murphy would have audiences LOL and ROFL, and Samuel E Jackson would have brought much more to the role than the guy that was cast in the part, at least IMHO.

I'll stop now, but please, in the future, don't get all ticked off if folks respond like in this thread, just because they don't share your racist outlook or agenda.

*climbs off soapbox, and sheepishly slinks off into the crowd, head hung low, after realizing I might just have been a bit to harsh*
 
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As a long fan of the series, it doesnt change a thing. Shepard could have been played by an Inuit and it still would have been Shepard. A throat singing rodent on the other hand would really have made a difference.
 
Shadow Master said:
The fact is, you have a racist outlook
You really have a hell of a nerve, you know that? You know nothing about me.

I confess ignorance of black actors. I'm almost equally ignorant about white actors, offhand.

Which is why I didn't try & pick a specific black actor for the role.

Don't like the thread? Go fuck yourself.
 
You really have a hell of a nerve, you know that? You know nothing about me.

I confess ignorance of black actors. I'm almost equally ignorant about white actors, offhand.

Which is why I didn't try & pick a specific black actor for the role.

Don't like the thread? Go fuck yourself.
Don't get me wrong, I respect your conduct on the forum in all the threads I have see your posts. And it isn't that I was trying to offend you with my earlier post, but rather, you picked one of my favorite tv series, and didn't deliver anything (that I found interesting --- but that's just me), but rather just threw out a generic "lets replace a white role with a black role, and discuss the merits of having done so, simply for the sake of race swapping".

And then I saw your responses to other posters comments, and I thought to myself, maybe pointing out what you did, and why folks were responding the way they were, would be a good thing. It appearently offended you, for which I apologize, as that was not the purpose of my post, rather, I merely wanted to open you too the idea that what you did could have been done a bit better.

And your wrong, you know, I do know something about you. From seeing other posts of yours here on the forum, you seem to be an alright guy, and I don't recall you ever getting bothered like you did here.

Also, understand clearly, I said "that is a racist way of looking at...", which is quite another thing than saying, "Your a racist".

Once again, I apologize for offending, but not for what I pointed out.
 
Cthe first thing I thought when seeing this topic was quite simple "why in the blazes should I care about what skincolour a certain charcter has." A black character is just as important as a white character, why should I even care about the skincolour of a certain person? We're all human. So no for the series it would not have made a point what so ever.

In fact I find it highly insulting not to even mention racist to give roles based on skincolour, unless of course it are historical characters, and even then make-up and CGI can do a lot, as in make a black actor play a white historical figure or vise versa and make the character still be historicly accurate.

In my opinion every role should be written without looking at skincolour and just allow everybody to apply and then decide which actor plays the role. Should that actor be black, the charcter is black, should the actor be asien then the character is asian, should the actor be white then the character is white.

Skincolour is just a factual matter of pigmentation in the skin, why should I care for someone being black or white? Can we please leave that behind us, we are all Homo Sapiens Sapiens!
 
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