Another hitler thread

drakle

Banned
How would Hitler and the Nazi's be seen if a month before the war with Poland Hitler and most major Nazi were killed [bombs or coup] and replaced by a better democracy that still keeps all territory changes from Hitler.

Would no war plus territory gained back equal a better image or would his economic plans make him hated for wreaking Germanys economy.
 

Zeldar155

Banned
How would Hitler and the Nazi's be seen if a month before the war with Poland Hitler and most major Nazi were killed [bombs or coup] and replaced by a better democracy that still keeps all territory changes from Hitler.

Would no war plus territory gained back equal a better image or would his economic plans make him hated for wreaking Germanys economy.

A democracy is still impossible, the Military would take over and form a junta or something similar.
 

Pangur

Donor
A democracy is still impossible, the Military would take over and form a junta or something similar.

For sure however would they invade Poland? I reckon that is a big no. Would they have as anti-semetic as Hitler was? again I don't think so.
 

Zeldar155

Banned
For sure however would they invade Poland? I reckon that is a big no. Would they have as anti-semetic as Hitler was? again I don't think so.

Indeed, you'd most likely prevent either WW2 or the serious genocides in it if it did start, though democracy in Germany in the 30's after the Nazis have taken hold is unlikely.
 

Pangur

Donor
Okay maybe democracy is impossible but the question was how he would be thought of.

You mean Hitler I assume. His name would be no where as bad as in the OTL however it still would not be good. The concentration camps already existed at that stage for starters.
 

Kongzilla

Banned
You mean Hitler I assume. His name would be no where as bad as in the OTL however it still would not be good. The concentration camps already existed at that stage for starters.

But at that point I don't think they were any worse than gulags.
 

drakle

Banned
Well many dictators that have killed more that OTL Hitler are not known about. My history teacher asked the class who was the worst dictator ever and most said Hitler or didn't know. Even though Mao and Stalin killed more people.

Franco is barely known about and Hitler at this point was roughly on par with him. I see two possible outcomes after he died though after researching a bit.

1 Military takes over and still attacks Poland triggering ww2
2 military takes over but collapses when the economy goes down the drain.
 
replaced by a better democracy
IMHO Nazi Germany does not equal 'democracy,' nor would the Nazis' downfall lead to 'a better democracy.'

The choices were simple (yet no less depressing):

A) the corrupt, economically-ruined Wiemar Republic wherein even under so-called 'democracy,' the Nazis were still able to seize power electorally in 1932

B) Nazi Germany...need I say more?

C) Communist Germany, and all of the chaos that results in the interwar period from the aftermath of a (possible) brutal civil war, a still-ravaged economy, etc.

All three scenarios are the product of a certain (infamous) harsh post-war treaty created with the sole purpose of blaming the losers and carving up the vanquished Central Powers' territory and colonies to boot, all the while justifying it by claiming that 'democracies' were being established across Central and Eastern Europe (very flawed, corrupt, and ineffective 'democracies' prone to military coups, fascism, etc.) as if that makes it any better.

So IMHO remove Hitler and the Nazis during the war and you either get another ineffective post-war 'democracy' or a series of brutal military juntas and/or Allied occupation.
 
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