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  1. Ivoshafen Just A Man From Gondor - Recovering from SATS

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    The Professor is, in my opinion, the site's authority on Old English, I'm sure he will end up popping up here soon to chime in.
     
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  2. The Professor Pontifex Collegii Vexillographiariorum

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    You called? :p

    @Hominid
    You're referring to a couple of processes called breaking and a-restoration/retraction.
    Breaking in the context of the Old English dialects is where stressed front vowels in a velar environment change to two by adding a schwa or similar: i, e, æ to short and long diphthongs spelled io, eo, ea when followed by h or by r, l + another consonant (short vowels only), and sometimes w.
    In the northern Anglian dialects, e.g. Northumbrian, Mercian, ea (= æa) was often retracted to a. It's sometimes called a-restoration as the original æ came from earlier a.
    Most of our spelling and pronunciation is based on Mercian.
     
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  3. Ella.is.crazy New England Nationalist

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    Oh, crap. They aren't Catholic, I forgot to put that on the map.
     
  4. Homer Simpson & the Brain World Conquering Drunk *burp*

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    Just something I found out browsing the wiktionary: even if they had been doing their very best to make sure they understood each other, both Norse and Anglo-Saxons would've had to rely heavily on context to tell if the other was talking about a rudder, a oarsman, something red or some kind of cattle, so a quite a few places ITTL's England could end up named after the wrong thing or be assumed such.
     
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  5. Ella.is.crazy New England Nationalist

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    Nona, hince thred jis pas deard.
     
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  6. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    "No, this thread is not dead?"
     
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  7. Ella.is.crazy New England Nationalist

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    Yup! That is "Wesesassen." I've retconned a few things, including Wesesasse (Wessex) being owned by the Capet Dynasty for a while, before De Anjou usurped the throne of France. French influence really changed the language of Wessex.
     
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  8. Clockro4ch Well-Known Member

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    I'm a native Hungarian speaker, if this is supposed to be anywhere near OTL Hungarian, it's very mangled.

    May I help?
     
  9. Ella.is.crazy New England Nationalist

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    Of course!
     
  10. Clockro4ch Well-Known Member

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    If you send me what you wanted to write originally, I can translate it for you :)
     
  11. Ella.is.crazy New England Nationalist

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    Khalifate min al-Salqid



    The Kingdom of Sicily, or Khalifate min al-Salqid, was first founded with the al-Fatami invasions of what was then the Basileia Rhomaion Anatolika.

    It changed when 'Abd-ar-Rahman "al-Abqari" al-Salqid was born to a minor family in Ma'adidawadiea, a small town on the eastern shores of Sqly (Sicily.) Immediately, he showed great intellect, something never before-seen on this earth. Some historians claim he was the most intelligent man to ever live, but this is disputed. Regardless, at 6 years old, he wrote the Hulm Alnabiu, something still studied and researched to this day, though, unfortunately, no whole copies remain.

    At 13, Khalif Abu 'Ali al-Mansur al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah granted him the cities of Ma'adidawadiea and Fereej al-Khulaana.

    At 16, the previous ruler of the al-Dawla Sqly, Abdul Ghani al-Ebrahim Aabid al-Baksh, died with no heirs. Seeing himself as the rightful ruler of Sqly, he peacefully usurped the throne, using his charisma and massive amounts of wealth to quell the rebellion.

    He founded a radical section of Islam, called Baasidiyyah, which told that Muhammed was resurrected by the, according to 'Abd-ar-Rahman, popular folk hero Baasid al-Miqdaam al-El-Sayed. He said that his parents were directly descended from him, making him have Muhammed's blood within him, making his claim for the Khalifate stronger than all others. He published this "finding" in Haqiqat al-Nabii .

    Using his massive wealth, he published hundreds, maybe even thousands of copies of this book, and spread them all throughout Sqly. The general populace was swayed by silver-tongued messengers, rallying to 'Abd-ar-Rahman's cause. Soon, he proclaimed himself Khalif.

    When word got to Khalif Abu 'Ali al-Mansur al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, he scoffed at it, thinking it was nonsense, and that no-one surely believed that. People did, in fact.

    Preparing for the oncoming invasion by the Fatimids, now Khalif 'Abd-ar-Rahman al-Khalifat al-Haqiqiu, he hired many mercenaries, and set them off to Cairo.
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    In Cairo, feigning peace, they stormed the Khalif's palace, and captured his sons. According to some reports, 90% of the mercenaries were killed, but, miraculously, for Khalif 'Abd-ar-Rahman, the Fatimid Khalif's sons were captured. The Khalif, knowing his bloodline was at risk, signed a peace treaty with Khalif 'Abd-ar-Rahman in a fit of depression and shock.

    Khalif 'Abd-ar-Rahman was now free to rule over Sqly, and, by the time he was 42, he had converted most of Sqly Proper to Baasidiyyahism. He conquests included the then Basileia Rhomaion Anatolikan holdings in southern Italy, and managed to placate the Pope, Pope Justinian IV, with gifts. By the time Khalif 'Abd-ar-Rahman al-Khalifat al-Haqiqiu died, his first born son and heir was already 53 years old. It is not known the exact date Khalif 'Abd-ar-Rahman died.
     
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  12. Ella.is.crazy New England Nationalist

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    The Khalifate min al-Salqid at its height, around 1204.