Anglo-Prussian Union?

Technically, if you really want to be pedantic, you can't use Bombay for Mumbai any more. It used to be a cultural thing, but a decade ago the local government there definitively renamed the city as "Mumbai", and it is thus called now even in the Anglosphere. Similarly Burma/Myanmar.

Most Burmese who oppose the Junta call it Burma.

Exactly. I really don't think we should go around listening to nutso dictatorships full stop. If the democratically elected government of Burma decides to rename it Myanmar, I'll give it serious consideration (as with Bombay/Mumbai). If a bunch of thugs do so—no deal.
 
Nek started a TL about it sometime ago: Reign of the Griffin: An Anglo-Prussian Union.

Basically George II has no issue, and so the succession goes to Sophia Dorothea of Hannover, who was married to Frederick William I of Prussia.

An interesting and promising TL, but it seems that it never went anywhere. :(

well an Anglo prussian union can happen a few times
first, if George I's wife dies in child birth, he don't remarry, the Crown goes to Frederick William I of Prussia by way of his sister Sophia Charlotte,

second, George II dies, his sister Sophia Dorothea is the queen of Prussia, her heir is Frederick the Great

and the last one i can think of, is this king Edward VII has no kids (to much sex with other women maybe, or the drinking, or being over weight what ever) Alfred's kids are unacceptable as Queen, Prince Leopold, kicks it a year early no kids from him, and kill Prince Arthur, that leaves the Crown to Wilhelm II, German Emperor, :eek: by way of Victoria.

the Victoria one is my favorite, it's not that hard to do,

How does that work? In the first scenario, George I's wife dies in childbirth but George II is still there. If George II dies (say before he becomes king) or has no issue then what exactly happens when his father dies? Does Sophia Dorothea become queen of England or does the crown go to her husband, Frederick Wilhelm? And is Hanover included in the Union? Anyway, however these scenarios happen, Frederick the Great still ends up king of Prussia and England.

And are England and Prussia (& possibly Hanover) automatically united into one country or does there need to be some Act of Union passed?
 
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How does that work? In the first scenario, George I's wife dies in childbirth but George II is still there. If George II dies (say before he becomes king) or has no issue then what exactly happens when his father dies? Does Sophia Dorothea become queen of England or does the crown go to her husband, Frederick Wilhelm? And is Hanover included in the Union? Anyway, however these scenarios happen, Frederick the Great still ends up king of Prussia and England.

And are England and Prussia (& possibly Hanover) automatically united into one country or does there need to be some Act of Union passed?

most of the time when a woman dies in child birth the kid dies too

and Hanover would not be part of the deal, hard to say where that goes
 
How does that work? In the first scenario, George I's wife dies in childbirth but George II is still there. If George II dies (say before he becomes king) or has no issue then what exactly happens when his father dies? Does Sophia Dorothea become queen of England or does the crown go to her husband, Frederick Wilhelm? And is Hanover included in the Union? Anyway, however these scenarios happen, Frederick the Great still ends up king of Prussia and England.

And are England and Prussia (& possibly Hanover) automatically united into one country or does there need to be some Act of Union passed?

I'll try to cover these points as best I can one by one:

What happens if George II's mother dies after he is born and he dies before he inherits the throne? - George II had all of his children before he took the throne, so it depends when he dies. If he dies post 1707 then he's already had a son, the man who would go on to be George III, being Prince Frederick. Aside from butterflies affecting marriages etc, this doesn't really change the succession. If he dies before 1707 then he's had no children, so the inheritance would pass to his sister, Sophia Dorothea, Queen of Prussia.

What happens if George II dies without issue? - See above

Does Sophia become Queen of England? - Yes. Her husband, Frederick Wilhelm of Prussia, would almost certainly be Prince Consort of England. He could technically be invested as King of England (technically actually the UK) but that wouldn't change the fact that his wife is legally the ruling Monarch, so the Kingship would be purely titular. Since Kings are generally seen as above Queens and such, therefore most likely he wouldn't be granted this honour.

Is Hanover included in the Union? - No. Hanover follows Salic Law and IIRC in Germany this means that the inheritance can't pass through a female, even to her children. Certainly in France that's the case. At any rate, with Sophia the legal claimant and not her husband, Hanover won't pass to the Prussian royals and takes its own Elector. This makes the Elector of Hanover Ernest, Duke of York and Albany. With his lack of an heir, if inheritance can pass through female blood (without actually resting on a woman) this actually makes Frederick William of Prussia his legal heir since his mother is next in line after his wife, ironically. Otherwise it gets considerably more confusing. Going back another two generations or so, you'll end up with Ernest's heir being some obscure minor noble who's name I don't believe is even recorded anymore. Judging by the distant heir and the reported looseness of interpretation of Salic Law in Germany, chances are it would be claimed by the Prussians anyway, so maybe it's a moot point save for Ernest being the legal claimant for one year.

Are the crowns united? - No, they're in Personal Union. Depending on the nature of the King at the time they may be administered separately or broadly treated as one, particularly the two German states. Foreign policy will be conducted largely as one, except where the British Parliament interjects. But laws passed in one don't apply to any of the others, etc, and as soon as the legal inheritor to the British throne is a female, the two German states and the UK will split, just as Hanover did from the UK in 1837. An Act of Union could be passed, although I think you'd need an Act of Succession separate from the Act of Union to confirm that the states will always share a ruler. The problem is passing it, as Hanover never felt British enough to want to stay in Personal Union and the British never saw a benefit to adopting Salic Law when Cognatic Primogeniture had given them such a great Queen in Elizabeth I. Neither state ever felt particularly inclined to stay united to the other. Prussia would be broadly the same. You could have them pass Acts of Succession, but it'd have to be justified...
 
What happens if George II's mother dies after he is born and he dies before he inherits the throne? - George II had all of his children before he took the throne, so it depends when he dies. If he dies post 1707 then he's already had a son, the man who would go on to be George III, being Prince Frederick. Aside from butterflies affecting marriages etc, this doesn't really change the succession. If he dies before 1707 then he's had no children, so the inheritance would pass to his sister, Sophia Dorothea, Queen of Prussia.
um NO!!!!! Prince Frederick and King George III are 2 different people, King George was Prince Frederick's son, Frederick died before his father of a cold in 1751.



Is Hanover included in the Union? - No. Hanover follows Salic Law and IIRC in Germany this means that the inheritance can't pass through a female, even to her children. Certainly in France that's the case. At any rate, with Sophia the legal claimant and not her husband, Hanover won't pass to the Prussian royals and takes its own Elector. This makes the Elector of Hanover Ernest, Duke of York and Albany. With his lack of an heir, if inheritance can pass through female blood (without actually resting on a woman) this actually makes Frederick William of Prussia his legal heir since his mother is next in line after his wife, ironically. Otherwise it gets considerably more confusing. Going back another two generations or so, you'll end up with Ernest's heir being some obscure minor noble who's name I don't believe is even recorded anymore. Judging by the distant heir and the reported looseness of interpretation of Salic Law in Germany, chances are it would be claimed by the Prussians anyway, so maybe it's a moot point save for Ernest being the legal claimant for one year.
as far as i know inheritance can't go through a woman, meaning that a new elector would need to be picked by the Holy Roman Emperor, here's why, the first elector was George I he had a son and a daughter, if the son has no heirs then it goes to George I's siblings, but he only has a sister, then on to his father's (Ernest Augustus) siblings (his father is fair game because he was Elector-designate) however his 3 brothers one had no children the others had only girls, so i guess that leaves that Holy Roman Emperor to pick
 
as far as i know inheritance can't go through a woman, meaning that a new elector would need to be picked by the Holy Roman Emperor, here's why, the first elector was George I he had a son and a daughter, if the son has no heirs then it goes to George I's siblings, but he only has a sister, then on to his father's (Ernest Augustus) siblings (his father is fair game because he was Elector-designate) however his 3 brothers one had no children the others had only girls, so i guess that leaves that Holy Roman Emperor to pick

ok i take it back if the HRE feels like it the heir as far i could find was Augustus William, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg
 
ok i take it back if the HRE feels like it the heir as far i could find was Augustus William, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg

Who has no issue, and then on to his younger brother who has only daughters, to his first cousin/son in law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Albert_II,_Duke_of_Brunswick-Lüneburg

I can easily see the Prussians claiming it upon Ernest Augustus' death and causing a war of Hanoverian succession. (Ironic since Ferdinand_Albert_II's son would go on to marry a Prussian princess in OTL)
 
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