Anglo-Hanoverian TL

Thanks!

I would just like to congratulate you on this TL RCTFI, I've been lurking here for a while reading it and its definitely one of my favorites!

I cant wait to see how it turns out after the war.

Keep up the good work!

Ah, it's always good to hear some praise. Thanks. So, want a cameo as some French politician? If so, do you want his political views to be to the left or to the right?
 
Opening Shots

January 1st: 1947 begins. The Imperial Japanese Navy begins preperations to defend Occupied Sumatra from possible Anglo-Hanoverian efforts.
January 2nd: The Anglo-Hanoverian Royal Navy moves against Sumatra, as massive numbers of Indian troops begin moving through South East Asia towards their final goal of the Vietnamese coast. As they move, they lay down roads and rail lines.
January 3rd: The Battle of The Bay of Bengal - 'Jamaica' torpedo bombers of the Royal Navy sink a Japanese cruiser as the two fleets skirmish. The only ship lost is the Japanese cruiser, although dozens of aircraft on both sides are lost. In the end, the Japanese withdraw, to fight defensively within range of their air bases on Sumatra.
January 4th: Fleet manuvering, as the Royal Navy prepares to attack Sumatra.
January 5th: The Battle of The Andaman Sea - the Royal Navy and the Imperial Japanese Navy clash in force - this is the first major naval victory the Anglo-Hanoverians have against the Japanese, as they force the Japanese fleet to withdraw.
The Japanese lose a carrier, the Shinano, along with eight other ships, while the Anglo-Hanoverians only lose six shps, none of which were carriers.
January 6th: The Battle of the Strait of Malacca - the Royal Navy repels an Imperial Japanese counter-attack, in spite of its heavy support from land-based air fields.
The Anglo-Hanoverians lose more aircraft than the Japanese, but ship losses are eleven Japanese for nine Anglo-Hanoverian.
January 7th: Operation Holiday - 10,000 Royal Marines storm the beaches of Sumatra, catching the defenders off guard and securing a beachhead by noon with only 2,000 losses.
By the time a Japanese counter-attack could be organized, another 20,000 troops were on shore, and were prepared to defend the Japanese trenches they had captured. In spite of the nearly suicidal courage of the Japanese, the Anglo-Hanoverians had their beachhead.
Over the course of the entire day, the Anglo-Hanoverians were under nearly continuous sniper fire, as well as periodic mortar bombardment.
January 8th: Another 10,000 Anglo-Hanoverian troops arrive in Sumatra, the others push into the island.
As they advance, they find themselves facing dug-in and fanatical defenders, who constantly attack them from ambush and without mercy. Even for the veteran troops involved in the opperation, losses are heavy and morale suffers.
About 3,500 Anglo-Hanoverians perish over the course of the 8th.
January 9th: Massive bombardment of Japanese positions on Sumatra occurs, as the Anglo-Hanoverian ground forces hang back and hope to soften up the enemy. Previous support fire from the fleet had also been heavy, but this time an extra effort is made, to pound the Japanese defenses to nothing and demoralize the defenders.
January 10th: The advance resumes - resistance continues to be encountered, although as more and more Anglo-Hanoverian armour is brought ashore, the fighting becomes easier - the Anglo-Hanoverian KA-II proves massively supperior to its Japanese counterparts, the Type 95 Ha-Go tank being the most common of the tanks it faced.
January 11th: The Grey Wolf Armoured Brigade arrives on Sumatra.
January 12th: The town on Medan on Sumatra falls over the course of a day of fierce fighting - the Grey Wolf Armoured Brigade showed up, and shelled the town into ruins to the dismay of its defenders, who encountered great difficulty in destroying the Grey Wolf Brigade's KA-IIs.
January 13th: The Japanese forces on Sumatra begin a fighting withdrawl, moving to re-form in the eastern part of the island.
January 14th: Further advances made in Sumatra.
January 15th: The first air bases are set up in the western part of Sumatra, and begin flying support missions against the Japanese.
January 16th: The town of Sibolga falls with very little fighting.
January 17th: Major Japanese resistance begins once more, as they struggle to deal with the Anglo-Hanoverian KA-IIs, resorting to all sorts of nearly-suicidal and truly-suicidal tactics to knock them out.
January 18th: A massed attack by the Grey Wolf Armoured Brigade breaks through the Japanese defenses, and is rapidly exploited as per the Lightning War strategies of the Eastern Front. This is one of the few times when such an opperation is possible, but it succedes wonderfully - nearly 8,000 Japanese soldiers are cut off, and while all but about 90 of them fight to the death, they are prevented from fighting effectively.
January 19th: Fierce Japanese resistance slows the Anglo-Hanoverian advance.
January 20th: A major aerial campaign is launched to secure total air supperiority over Sumatra.
January 21st: The Battle of The Java Sea - the Royal Navy severs Japanese supply lines to Sumatra, and begins preperations to move on towards Borneo once Sumatra was secured.
The Anglo-Hanoverian carrier Apollo suffers serious damage, but survives, while the Japanese carrier Kami is sunk.
January 22nd: The Battle of Makassar Straits - the Anglo-Hanoverian Royal Navy fights a major battle with the Imperial Japanese Navy, one that ends indecisively, but indecisively in the favor of the Anglo-Hanoverians since they prevent the Japanese counter-attack from carrying through.
The Anglo-Hanoverians lose the carrier Nike to the Japanese, as well as a number of other ships.
January 23rd: Padang in Sumatra falls.
January 24th: Jambi on Sumatra falls. The fighting around Jambi was fierce, as the swampy terrain did not easily accomadate Anglo-Hanoverian armour, Still, thanks to air supperiority, the Anglo-Hanoverians prevailed.
January 25th: Fierce Japanese resistance leads to the Anglo-Hanoverian offensive in Sumatra bogging down.
January 26th: With the consent of the Prime Minister, the atomic bomb is used for the third time, against Palembang, tha largest town on Sumatra, which had become the lynchpin of the determined Japanese defense.
Following the atomic attack, the Japanese defenders were so shocked at the scale of the destruction that their defense collapses. Many actually surrender, so horrifying was the destruction of the town.
January 27th: The ruins of Palembang are secured.
January 28th: The town of Bengkulu on Sumatra is secured as the Japanese retreat.
January 29th: The remaining Japanese defenders dig-in and prepare to sell their lives dearly in the south-eastern portion of the island of Sumatra.
The Anglo-Hanoverians push on, and make good use of their armour, using for the first time KA-IIFs, which are King Alexander Model Two tanks modified to use a flame thrower.
Burned, bombed and shelled, the Japanese defenders hold out through the night and into the next day.
January 30th: The last Japanese positions are taken, as desperate Japanese soldirs begin comitting mass suicide rather than surrender or be burned to death in their bunkers by flame tanks.
The island of Sumatra has been taken, at the cost of about 10,500 Anglo-Hanoverian soldiers.
Precise Japanese losses are unknown, but presumed to be about 65,000.
 
Well...

Well, the first island has fallen... on to Tokyo, eh? Don't worry Jacobite, the war will be over soon, and then you'll get your cameo...
 
Hmm, I just want to say I really don't see any way that the US would ally with A-H if they took territory from us, we are freakishly prideful and greedy of our territory, as most countries are, but way more here.
 
Wow, i didn't think the AH would use its atomic weapons on the islands Japan occupied, don't they want the islands mostly intact or is ending the war a major priority?

Either way, awesome writing still!
 
Looks like the taboo of nuculear weapons doesn't really exist in this TL... Great updates and it seems as if the AH Empire just might make it through without too much carnage.
 
On Atom Bombs and Japan

Wow, i didn't think the AH would use its atomic weapons on the islands Japan occupied, don't they want the islands mostly intact or is ending the war a major priority?

Either way, awesome writing still!

At this point, after the butchery lf the Eastern Front against Russia, the Anglo-Hanoverian Empire doesn't have much spare manpower left, really. They want to avoid cassualties as best they can, and that desire will lead to their willingness to use whatever they have to secure victory without too many of their own ending up dead.

Looks like the taboo of nuculear weapons doesn't really exist in this TL... Great updates and it seems as if the AH Empire just might make it through without too much carnage.

Yeah... they're using more A-bombs, and that's going to be a problem enviornmentally, but the bigger problem is that they're basically reducing the A-bomb to just another conventional weapon in terms of the horror and revulsion associated with it. They are, after all, going to use more...

Oh, and thanks for the compliments on the TL, always good to be praised.
 
That explains it then, but if they wish to end the war quickly why not directly bomb Japan with the atomic weapons like the USA did in otl?

Either way its a pretty terrifying concept if atomic weapons can be chucked around like that with no thought for the damage, i'm assuming the AH government has no idea of the environmental repercussions yet?
 
Exactly!

That explains it then, but if they wish to end the war quickly why not directly bomb Japan with the atomic weapons like the USA did in otl?

Either way its a pretty terrifying concept if atomic weapons can be chucked around like that with no thought for the damage, i'm assuming the AH government has no idea of the environmental repercussions yet?

Well, the only thing stopping them from bombarding the Japanese Home Islands with nukes is the simple fact that they don't have any air bases within range of those islands at this time. Once they do, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Kyoto and so on would all be in trouble.

As per the enviornmental impact, yeah, at this point they haven't even realized that people can do things to actually damage the entire planet, so they're not exactly looking out for the enviornment.
 
Oh there's gonna be a lot of crap coming from other nations when thats discovered then.

Especially America...

Either way, looking forward to the post-war bits :)
 
Just took a long slog over two days reading your entire time line! I have to say I really enjoyed it great work.

What is the economy like for AH at the moment? Years of attrition, millions of lives lost, cost of maintaining possessions and expansive war, as well as the cost of all these nuclear bombs.....I expect them to suffer some post war depression (similar to OTL)

Once again great work keep it up!

Edit: Also, what are the populations of England - Germany combined? So we can see how much affect this loss of life has on them. Current day Britain has a population of 60 million and it must have been considerably less in that time...
 
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Populations

Just took a long slog over two days reading your entire time line! I have to say I really enjoyed it great work.

What is the economy like for AH at the moment? Years of attrition, millions of lives lost, cost of maintaining possessions and expansive war, as well as the cost of all these nuclear bombs.....I expect them to suffer some post war depression (similar to OTL)

Once again great work keep it up!

Edit: Also, what are the populations of England - Germany combined? So we can see how much affect this loss of life has on them. Current day Britain has a population of 60 million and it must have been considerably less in that time...

The population of Britain in this TL is slightly more than it would be OTLy at that time, while Ireland is about the same, and their German possessions phave about three quarters of the population of Germany at that time in OTL. Hope that helps you get an idea of the scale of the devestation.

As for the post-war era, think for one moment about a situation where, while relatively little of the physical infastructure has been destroyed, about 40% - 50% (depending on the areas) of the male population of military age has been killed. You see, the English and Scotish were over-represented in the Anglo-Hanoverian military... so, think about Germany and what happened there, not necessarily what happened with England post-war.

Next update will probably be up sometime tomorrow.
 
Another Island...

February 1st: preperations begin for the invasion of Java, as part of an effort to open supply lines to Australia, and prevent Japanese raids on Anglo-Hanoverian convoys in the Indian Ocean.
February 2nd: The American government recieves information on their Arizona Project, and approves testing.
February 3rd - 4th: Preperations for the Arizona Project test and for the invasion of Java continue.
February 5th: The Americans detonate their own atom bomb.
February 6th - February 28th: Preperations for the invasion of occupied Java continue. The Japanese on the island dig in heavily, and prepare to sell their lives dearly...

March 1st - March 3rd: The invasion of Java is opened with the heavy conventional naval and aerial bombardment of Japanese positions on the island. The bombardment continues for three days.
March 4th: Two atomic bombs are dropped on what aerial recon showed were heavy concentrations of Japanese troops.
A mere six hours after the atom bombs were dropped, a time during which the conventional bombardment resumed with a vengence, the invasion begins. 25,000 Royal Marines hit the beaches, and begin deploying to secure a beachhead. Opposition is light, and consists almost entierly of sniper and mortar fire.
March 5th: Another 20,000 Anglo-Hanoverian soldiers come ashore, and the advance begins. Opposition is initially light. The town of Bogor falls.
March 6th - 7th: The easy advance continues - apparently, the massive bombardment was enough to throw the Japanese into total disorder. It is only on the 7th that losses reach 1,000. On the seventh, the town of Bandung falls.
March 8th: A fanatical Japanese counter-attack is lauched, one that meets heavy opposition. The fighting on Java is furious, and about 1,200 Anglo-Hanoverians and about 8,000 Japanese soldiers are killed.
March 9th: Anglo-Hanoverian armour continues to prove superior to all Japanese opposition, although some tanks begin to be lost to Japanese knock-offs of Anglo-Hanoverian VK-ATPs (again, think fairly similar to OTL Panzerfaust). The town of Semarang falls.
March 10th - March 16th: Brutal advance as Japanese guerilla tactics continue to improve. About 2,000 Anglo-Hanoverians die over the course of those seven days.
March 17th: The town of Surabaya falls.
March 18th: The Anglo-Hanoverian forces on Java encounter a line of Japanese defenses protecting the eastern end of Java. With flamethrower-equipped tanks, they try to storm the lines, but fall short of total success in the first day. In the end, the assault must continue.
March 19th - 20th: Two more days of brutal fighting in Java, before the Japanese lines are breached.
By the end of the 20th, another 4,000 Anglo-Hanoverian soldiers and 30,000 Japanese soldiers had perished.
March 21st: In South East Asia, Vietnamese rebels under Ho Chi Minh begin to rise up as Anglo-Hanoverian troops near Vietnam, having fought their way through the jungle, laying down roads and rail lines as they advanced.
March 22nd: The remainder of Java is secured - the High Command decides to secure the trailing islands to the east of Java as their next target.
March 23rd: 25 Anglo-Hanoverian Special Operations troops are paradropped into Vietnam. All of these operatives are fluent in Vietnamese, and are assigned to help the Vietnamese in their rebellion.
March 24th: The Anglo-Hanoverian Special Operations team makes contact with the Vietminh, and inform them of the offer being made by the Anglo-Hanoverians - if they rise up against the Japanese and help the Anglo-Hanoverians drive them out, they will not only be granted their independence (which they had come to expect), they will also be given money to help them rebuild, plus a permanent trading relationship with the Anglo-Hanoverian Empire. Needless to say, they are enthusiastic - the Vietminh are now on the Anglo-Hanoverian side.
March 25th: Anglo-Hanoverian troops engage Japanese troops along the Laotian border with Vietnam. The Japanese troops are forced to withdraw by superior Anglo-Hanoverian numbers.
(Note that almost 100% of the troops marching through South East Asia were colonial troops)
March 26th: The Battle of Hue - Anglo-Hanoverian troops overwhelm the Japanese garrison as more and more heavy equippment and troops are brought through the South East Asian supply lines.
Note that the Anglo-Hanoverians are being quite liberal about providing the Vietminh with weaponry.
March 27th: Japanese forces rally around Saigon, and begin withdrawing from northern Vietnam. The Japanese government has decided that it cannot hold Vietnam.
March 28th: The Anglo-Hanoverian High Command considers using an atomic weapon against Saigon, but decides against it as they want to keep the Vietnamese friendly. As a result, massive numbers of Anglo-Hanoverian troops head for Saigon.
March 29th - 30th: Preperations are made for the attack on Saigon - air bases are established, and the Royal Navy moves into position.

April 1st: The First Battle of the South China Sea - The Imperial Japanese Navy manages to fight the Royal Navy to a draw, resulting in the loss of a large number of ships to both sides. Amoung the lost vessels were the Anglo-Hanoverian battleships Fearless and Defiant as well as the Japanese carrier Kyoto (the only Japanese carrier named after a city, named as such as Kyotot is considered the Japanese sacred city.) Still, in the end the losses were nearly even.
April 2nd: Saigon is assaulted - Anglo-Hanoverian losses are heavy in the fierce house-to-house fighting that ensues.
April 3rd - 5th: More fighting in Saigon - nearly the entire civilian population is killed, along with 10,000 Anglo-Hanoverian troops and almost 40,000 Japanese, many of whom killed themselves when they realized that their situation was not sustainable.
April 6th: The last Japanese forces leave Vietnam. Celebrations ensue.
 
Comments?

Well, Java is under Anglo-Hanoverian control again, and Vietnam is freed... now on towards Japan itself, and the decisive battle that will see the Japanese fleet destroyed as an effective force. As a preview to the next update, think of the technology that the Germans in OTL were working on at the end of the war, which they had actually deployed in some cases, and which the Anglo-Hanoverians have so far not produced.
If you guessed jet aircraft, you're on the right track...

Oh, and what do you think about the Anglo-Hanoverian plans to grant Vietnam its independence after the war? (They got it from France after the First World War in this TL).
 
Well, Java is under Anglo-Hanoverian control again, and Vietnam is freed... now on towards Japan itself, and the decisive battle that will see the Japanese fleet destroyed as an effective force. As a preview to the next update, think of the technology that the Germans in OTL were working on at the end of the war, which they had actually deployed in some cases, and which the Anglo-Hanoverians have so far not produced.
If you guessed jet aircraft, you're on the right track...

Oh, and what do you think about the Anglo-Hanoverian plans to grant Vietnam its independence after the war? (They got it from France after the First World War in this TL).

Jet aircraft yes, but also rockets V1 + V2 style.

Good idea for Vietnam, trading links with the most powerful political/trading block on the planet. The Anglo-Hannoverians gain an ally in the area and don't piss them off by reneging on promises. Besides A-H have already seen just how effective an opposition the Vietnamese can be.
 
April 1st: The First Battle of the South China Sea - The Imperial Japanese Navy manages to fight the Royal Navy to a draw, resulting in the loss of a large number of ships to both sides. Amoung the lost vessels were the Anglo-Hanoverian battleships Fearless and Defiant as well as the Japanese carrier Kyoto (the only Japanese carrier named after a city, named as such as Kyotot is considered the Japanese sacred city.) Still, in the end the losses were nearly even.

Just a little quibble. I would totally disagree with the results of this. As the A-H forces are willing to use nuclear weapons in a tactical role, then such a battle should be a massacre. The RN can simply drop a single nuclear weapon on top of the Japanese fleet, and it all dies.
 
Just a little quibble. I would totally disagree with the results of this. As the A-H forces are willing to use nuclear weapons in a tactical role, then such a battle should be a massacre. The RN can simply drop a single nuclear weapon on top of the Japanese fleet, and it all dies.

Is it likely that the entire navy is going to be concentrated in one area? And landing an A bomb on larger populated cities or industrial areas would give more of an impression....
 
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