Anglo-Dutch Empire
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Aussey said:
Well, the reasoning behind this is that the Imperial Commonwealth has much, much closer ties than OTL's commonwealth. After all, they do have a common Imperial Parliament to handle foreign affairs and war, a common currency and other such things- they're closer knit than the European Union. They're a de facto Federal Empire.
And just to clear up any doubts- no one in TTL is directly ruled by the UK. The UK itself sends representatives to the Imperial Commonwealth.
Also, another thing to remember is that colonisation has never been discredited in TTL- after all it worked very well. it's a much more bloodthirsthy society than ours- the mentality of the average Imperial citizen is much closer to that of a 19th Century British citizen than to the average inhabitant of any of OTLs First World nation. News of the orbital strikes on Russian troops would most likely be greeted by dancing in the streets from Nieuw Amsterdam to Toyko.
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Imajin said:
@ Aussey: Yep- the French kicked out their King and proclaimed a Republic. The King slunk off to Louisiana where his descendants are now constitutional monarchs.
So far, I'm glad that no one has called me on my use of mass drivers
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Awed by the destructive power of these new weapons, the Russian generals call for a ceasefire. They are faced with a dilemma. With the end of the Civil War, the nuclear capabilities of Russia were not what they used to be. However, they had three choices- they could launch a desperate onslaught on the Line of Steel, hoping to breakthrough and gaining some territorial consessions, they could launch a nuclear assault on the Alliance and destroy a few cities but face annihilation from the Anglo-Dutch mass drivers as well as the nuclear arsenals of the Alliance...or they could ask for an armistice and withdraw their troops.
The third option was the only tenable one.
On the 15th of February, 1999, the Russians agreed to withdraw from the Line of Steel. They made minor border concessions to Austria, Greece and Hungary while ceding Sakhalin, Hokkaido and Alyeska to the Anglo-Dutch.
Six months later, a cabal of officers rose against the Generals and Russia was once more plunged into a Civil War- though this time neither side resorted to nuclear weapons.
The year 2000 saw more nations join the Imperial Commonwealth. The first was the former Cushite Empire which had been simmering in discontent since Russian aid to it had been cut off. The nobles had finally been overthrown in a revolution aided by Anglo-Dutch finance and arms.
The second two were Venice and the Two Sicilies both deeming that the economic benefits of joining made sense.
The third option was the only tenable one.
On the 15th of February, 1999, the Russians agreed to withdraw from the Line of Steel. They made minor border concessions to Austria, Greece and Hungary while ceding Sakhalin, Hokkaido and Alyeska to the Anglo-Dutch.
Six months later, a cabal of officers rose against the Generals and Russia was once more plunged into a Civil War- though this time neither side resorted to nuclear weapons.
The year 2000 saw more nations join the Imperial Commonwealth. The first was the former Cushite Empire which had been simmering in discontent since Russian aid to it had been cut off. The nobles had finally been overthrown in a revolution aided by Anglo-Dutch finance and arms.
The second two were Venice and the Two Sicilies both deeming that the economic benefits of joining made sense.
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Thanks.
Map is fixed.
I'm thinking that the next few updates will be concentrating on Space
Map is fixed.
I'm thinking that the next few updates will be concentrating on Space
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2000-2010: Some comments on the Empire
The Russian War had only slightly shaken the grand system of life in the Empire. True, more soldiers had died that was usual in the Empire's wars but that was understandable with with the efficacy of modern weaponry. Besides, the technology of the Empire had won the day and that was all that mattered.
The inhabitants of the Empire differ from OTLs First-Worlders in that they are not at all technophobic- their attitude towards technology is a lot more Victorian than our own. Technology is the Empire's plaything and there is much enthusiasm for research and development to make things better, stronger and faster. After all, that is how the Empire has maintained it's clear dominance over all the other nations of the World.
Development-wise, they are somewhat in advance of our own technology having developed the procedures neccessary to set up sustainable colonies on the Moon (indeed, by this time, the population of Luna has swelled to three thousand) and build ships in orbit. Researchers at the Borobudur Project based at the University of Djkarta are on the way to perfecting nuclear fusion.
Leading scientists and space pioneers are still feted as celebrities.
Culturally, they're a lot less racist than the imperialists we know. Good natured arrogance pretty much sums it up. Their world-view is much more like that of the Roman Empire- anyone of whatever cree dor colour from one of the Realms of the Empire is an Imperial citizen and therefore deserving of a certain respect. Anyone who does not join the Empire is to be pitied- even the citizens of the Alliance. The fact that they belong to countries almost as well-developed as the Empire is of no matter. They are still not citizens. If their nations should be enlightened enough to join, however, they will be welcomed with open arms.
This is a world where the words 'Civitas Imperius sum' (though probably not in Latin) command respect even in foreign courts of law. After all, at this point, the Empire rules slightly under half of the planet and counts slightly over half of Humankind as citizens.
The exception to this rule, however, is Vrijland. The Vrijlanders are commonly seen of as beyond the Pale. They were part of the Empire and chose to reject it and furthermore they subject many of their own citizens to oppression of a scale undreamt of in the Empire.
The Russians, or at least their ruling classes, are also despised. When Imperial government agencies moved into Alaska, Hokkaido and Sakhalin to take over the governance of the population they were appaled at the conditions of the serfs. Scores of charitable organisations were set up to educate and feed these unfortunate souls who had been delivered into the mercy of the Empire. Queen-Empress Astrid II herself urged the public to give generously so that the children of these serfs might take their rightful place as productive Imperial Citizens.
The Russian War had only slightly shaken the grand system of life in the Empire. True, more soldiers had died that was usual in the Empire's wars but that was understandable with with the efficacy of modern weaponry. Besides, the technology of the Empire had won the day and that was all that mattered.
The inhabitants of the Empire differ from OTLs First-Worlders in that they are not at all technophobic- their attitude towards technology is a lot more Victorian than our own. Technology is the Empire's plaything and there is much enthusiasm for research and development to make things better, stronger and faster. After all, that is how the Empire has maintained it's clear dominance over all the other nations of the World.
Development-wise, they are somewhat in advance of our own technology having developed the procedures neccessary to set up sustainable colonies on the Moon (indeed, by this time, the population of Luna has swelled to three thousand) and build ships in orbit. Researchers at the Borobudur Project based at the University of Djkarta are on the way to perfecting nuclear fusion.
Leading scientists and space pioneers are still feted as celebrities.
Culturally, they're a lot less racist than the imperialists we know. Good natured arrogance pretty much sums it up. Their world-view is much more like that of the Roman Empire- anyone of whatever cree dor colour from one of the Realms of the Empire is an Imperial citizen and therefore deserving of a certain respect. Anyone who does not join the Empire is to be pitied- even the citizens of the Alliance. The fact that they belong to countries almost as well-developed as the Empire is of no matter. They are still not citizens. If their nations should be enlightened enough to join, however, they will be welcomed with open arms.
This is a world where the words 'Civitas Imperius sum' (though probably not in Latin) command respect even in foreign courts of law. After all, at this point, the Empire rules slightly under half of the planet and counts slightly over half of Humankind as citizens.
The exception to this rule, however, is Vrijland. The Vrijlanders are commonly seen of as beyond the Pale. They were part of the Empire and chose to reject it and furthermore they subject many of their own citizens to oppression of a scale undreamt of in the Empire.
The Russians, or at least their ruling classes, are also despised. When Imperial government agencies moved into Alaska, Hokkaido and Sakhalin to take over the governance of the population they were appaled at the conditions of the serfs. Scores of charitable organisations were set up to educate and feed these unfortunate souls who had been delivered into the mercy of the Empire. Queen-Empress Astrid II herself urged the public to give generously so that the children of these serfs might take their rightful place as productive Imperial Citizens.
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Kidblast said:
Just noticed this- Hawaii is Anglo-Dutch, most Jews live in the Anglo-Dutch Commonwealth.
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make one nation have a leader that's a hippie syle freelove/peace loving drug user, who reforms there nation into doing the same.
I've been thinking about what the United Kingdom might be like in this world, so I'm going to post my thoughts here.
ETHNIC GROUPS IN THE UK POPULATION
Ethnicity in ADE UK (in OTL England and Wales)
White 80.1% (91.3%)
Mixed Race 6.6% (1.4%)
Oriental 6.5% (0.9%): Japanese 3.4%, East Indian 1.6%, Chinese 1.5%
Indian 2.2% (3.9%)
African 1.6% (1.1%): South African 1.5%, Other 0.1%
Near East 0.9% (0.2%): Persian 0.6%, Omani 0.3%
American 2.1% (1.1%): Caribbean 0.6%, Guyanan 0.6%, Darienese 0.4%, Other 0.5%
This table shows the ethnic breakdown of the UK in ADE (England, Wales and the Netherlands) and, for comparison, England and Wales in OTL. Note that the OTL stats for "Muslim" do not include people of Pakistani or Bangladeshi descent who have been counted as "Indian". Also note that in both sets of stats white South Africans and Americans are counted as whites, not Africans or Americans.
Unlike in OTL, there was no single period in which non-white immigration into the UK can be said to have started. The number of non-white immigrants, which started as an unnoticable trickle, has gradually increased over time.
In ADE, the UK has over twice as the non-white population it has in OTL, and a far larger proportion of these are mixed-race. Since the Imperial Commonwealth is a de facto federal state its people think of themselves more as being a single population than the citizens of the British Commonwealth in OTL do, and this has lead to increased movement of people, and increased intermarriage. The other major difference from OTL is the much larger number of orientals, negligible in OTL UK, but in the ADE UK almost equal to all the other ethnic groups put together. A large proportion of the "mixed-race" citizens of the UK are of mixed oriental/white parentage.
ETHNIC GROUPS IN THE UK POPULATION
Ethnicity in ADE UK (in OTL England and Wales)
White 80.1% (91.3%)
Mixed Race 6.6% (1.4%)
Oriental 6.5% (0.9%): Japanese 3.4%, East Indian 1.6%, Chinese 1.5%
Indian 2.2% (3.9%)
African 1.6% (1.1%): South African 1.5%, Other 0.1%
Near East 0.9% (0.2%): Persian 0.6%, Omani 0.3%
American 2.1% (1.1%): Caribbean 0.6%, Guyanan 0.6%, Darienese 0.4%, Other 0.5%
This table shows the ethnic breakdown of the UK in ADE (England, Wales and the Netherlands) and, for comparison, England and Wales in OTL. Note that the OTL stats for "Muslim" do not include people of Pakistani or Bangladeshi descent who have been counted as "Indian". Also note that in both sets of stats white South Africans and Americans are counted as whites, not Africans or Americans.
Unlike in OTL, there was no single period in which non-white immigration into the UK can be said to have started. The number of non-white immigrants, which started as an unnoticable trickle, has gradually increased over time.
In ADE, the UK has over twice as the non-white population it has in OTL, and a far larger proportion of these are mixed-race. Since the Imperial Commonwealth is a de facto federal state its people think of themselves more as being a single population than the citizens of the British Commonwealth in OTL do, and this has lead to increased movement of people, and increased intermarriage. The other major difference from OTL is the much larger number of orientals, negligible in OTL UK, but in the ADE UK almost equal to all the other ethnic groups put together. A large proportion of the "mixed-race" citizens of the UK are of mixed oriental/white parentage.
Religion in the United Kingdom of England and the Netherlands
37.3% - Atheist or agnostic
25.7% - Protestant (nominal)
7.9% - Catholic (churchgoers)
7.9% - Catholic (nominal)
5.7% - Protestant (churchgoers)
4.5% - Buddhist
3.4% - Shinto
3.0% - Muslim
2.3% - Hindu
1.3% - Taoist
1.0% - Other
Note that most Japanese immigrants follow both the Buddhist and Shinto religions.
Although the Church of England has miniscule congregations, and most of its buildings have been sold off, it is still the Established Church in England and Wales: its Bishops and Archbishops (elected by the General Synod) sit in the UK House of Lords and the UK has laws against blaspheming the Christian religion. In practice there is complete religious freedom and the blasphemy laws are only exercised in extreme circumstances.
Note the much higher proportion of people positively identifying themselves as atheists or agnostics than in the UK in OTL. Many non-churchgoers have stopped considering themselves even nominal Christians.
The Catholic Church is much the same as it is in OTL, but even more conservative. Its numbers have been swelled in recent decades by Protestants (particularly Anglicans) who have been turned off by the increasing liberalism of their own churches. Politically, Catholics usually support right-wing parties.
There are two main types of Protestantism in this timeline, Puritanism and Celtic Christianity. Puritans and Celtic Christians are represented in most major Protestant denominations.
About 70% of Protestants are Puritans. Puritans are orthodox Christians but they do NOT read of the Bible in a literal fashion, and there is a greater emphasis on the Holy Spirit than in OTL. Anything reminiscent of Catholicism is spurned. Church leaders are typically elected for a limited period. Churches are often called chapels or meeting houses and are decorated simply. Commonly, seating in new buildings is arranged in a circle, to emphasise that all believers (including women) are equal in the eyes of God. Religious services are at least partly unprogrammed (i.e. there is a time when any member of the congregation may speak, initiate prayer, request a hymn etc.) and often include a period of silent worship. Speaking in tongues, faith healing and "quaking" are more common than in OTL. Sacraments, apart from marriage and funerals, are usually ignored. Evangelism is greatly encouraged.
Puritans consciously set themselves against a selfish, consumerist, decadent and sexually immoral society. They admire asceticism, honesty, hard-work and charity. Politically, Puritans hold views that in OTL would be considered a mixture of left and right wing.
The particular nature of Puritanism in this timeline comes from the fact that more "marginal" Protestant denominations such as Quakers, Shakers and Anabaptists had more influence on the development of Protestantism. The non-literal reading of the Bible is due to a greater respect for academic Biblical scholarship than among OTLs Protestants.
About 20% of Protestants are Celtic Christians, which has nothing to do with historical Celtic Christianity: it is so called because it first became popular in Wales. Doctrinally, it is unorthodox and ultra-liberal - its theology is somewhat similar to that of Teilhard de Chardin in OTL. It borrows ideas and stylistic elements freely from many varieties of Christianity and some non-Christian religions. It places a great emphasis on Christian worship and the Christian life being enjoyable experiences. It is impossible to generalise further about Celtic Christianity, since each church is different to the next. Politically, Celtic Christians usually support left-wing parties.
All three versions of Christianity draw their membership from across the social classes.
37.3% - Atheist or agnostic
25.7% - Protestant (nominal)
7.9% - Catholic (churchgoers)
7.9% - Catholic (nominal)
5.7% - Protestant (churchgoers)
4.5% - Buddhist
3.4% - Shinto
3.0% - Muslim
2.3% - Hindu
1.3% - Taoist
1.0% - Other
Note that most Japanese immigrants follow both the Buddhist and Shinto religions.
Although the Church of England has miniscule congregations, and most of its buildings have been sold off, it is still the Established Church in England and Wales: its Bishops and Archbishops (elected by the General Synod) sit in the UK House of Lords and the UK has laws against blaspheming the Christian religion. In practice there is complete religious freedom and the blasphemy laws are only exercised in extreme circumstances.
Note the much higher proportion of people positively identifying themselves as atheists or agnostics than in the UK in OTL. Many non-churchgoers have stopped considering themselves even nominal Christians.
The Catholic Church is much the same as it is in OTL, but even more conservative. Its numbers have been swelled in recent decades by Protestants (particularly Anglicans) who have been turned off by the increasing liberalism of their own churches. Politically, Catholics usually support right-wing parties.
There are two main types of Protestantism in this timeline, Puritanism and Celtic Christianity. Puritans and Celtic Christians are represented in most major Protestant denominations.
About 70% of Protestants are Puritans. Puritans are orthodox Christians but they do NOT read of the Bible in a literal fashion, and there is a greater emphasis on the Holy Spirit than in OTL. Anything reminiscent of Catholicism is spurned. Church leaders are typically elected for a limited period. Churches are often called chapels or meeting houses and are decorated simply. Commonly, seating in new buildings is arranged in a circle, to emphasise that all believers (including women) are equal in the eyes of God. Religious services are at least partly unprogrammed (i.e. there is a time when any member of the congregation may speak, initiate prayer, request a hymn etc.) and often include a period of silent worship. Speaking in tongues, faith healing and "quaking" are more common than in OTL. Sacraments, apart from marriage and funerals, are usually ignored. Evangelism is greatly encouraged.
Puritans consciously set themselves against a selfish, consumerist, decadent and sexually immoral society. They admire asceticism, honesty, hard-work and charity. Politically, Puritans hold views that in OTL would be considered a mixture of left and right wing.
The particular nature of Puritanism in this timeline comes from the fact that more "marginal" Protestant denominations such as Quakers, Shakers and Anabaptists had more influence on the development of Protestantism. The non-literal reading of the Bible is due to a greater respect for academic Biblical scholarship than among OTLs Protestants.
About 20% of Protestants are Celtic Christians, which has nothing to do with historical Celtic Christianity: it is so called because it first became popular in Wales. Doctrinally, it is unorthodox and ultra-liberal - its theology is somewhat similar to that of Teilhard de Chardin in OTL. It borrows ideas and stylistic elements freely from many varieties of Christianity and some non-Christian religions. It places a great emphasis on Christian worship and the Christian life being enjoyable experiences. It is impossible to generalise further about Celtic Christianity, since each church is different to the next. Politically, Celtic Christians usually support left-wing parties.
All three versions of Christianity draw their membership from across the social classes.
POLITICS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM OF ENGLAND AND THE NETHERLANDS
The Parliamentary system is virtually the same as in OTL. Of course the Palace of Westminster and Big Ben do not exist, since they were built after the POD. At the end of the Eighteenth Century it was decided that a new and larger parliament building was required and this was completed in 1802. The new Houses of Parliament, in Battersea, are in a style best described as "mock-seventeenth-century Dutch gothic" and are known for their maze-like interior, containing many courtyards and gardens, including roof-gardens.
The House of Commons contains 450 MPs, each representing a single constituency and elected by a numerical-choice system (that is, voters number the candidates they wish to elect in order of preference). The current (2010) composition of the House of Commons is as follows.
Tory Party - 228
Liberal Party - 190
Anarchists - 13
New Party - 5
Dutch Nationalists - 5
Welsh Nationalists - 5
Independents - 4
Speaker of the House of Commons - 1
The Prime Minister is Mr Herbert Robinson, a balding, bearded, slightly overweight man, known for his ready wit. As a politician, he is a centrist. Before entering politics he was a university lecturer in Classical literature and history. The government has a majority of only seven, and so cannot enact any radical policies.
The Leader of the Opposition is Mr Ryutaro Sawamatsu. He is a radical who became leader of his party due to a fluke. He has his admirers, raving fans even, but most people regard him as an eccentric. His ideas might be described as a mixture of classical liberalism, egalitarianism and futurism. He is an elderly Japanese man (born in the UK) whose trim white hair, moustache and beard make him look a little like a magician. Before entering politics he was an entrepreneur.
Anarchist MPs represent a variety of political (anarchist) philosophies, but generally united in voting against the government of the day. Their presence in Parliament is due to protest voting against the two established political parties rather than genuine support for anarchism.
The New Party (formed 1874) is a home for all those people and ideas too left-wing to be entertained by the left-wing of the Liberal Party. They used to be much more popular - five MPs is a real low point for them.
The Dutch and Welsh Nationalists want their respective nations to secede from the United Kingdom and become Viceroyalties. They feel the United Kingdom is too dominated by England and the English and that their national identities are withering away. Both parties generally support the Liberal Party, but the Dutch Nationalists tend to be more right-wing than the Welsh Nationalists.
The House of Lords is relatively unreformed compared to OTL. It has the power to reject bills outright rather than just delay them. It consists of members of the aristocracy (NB the firstborn son OR DAUGHTER inherits the title and peers must pass on their title after the age of 65), and Archbishops and Bishops of the Church of England (who also must retire at 65). There is no such thing as life peers. The Monarch, and not the Prime Minister, retains the de facto power to create new peers and by tradition does so rarely.
Clearly the House of Lords is sorely in need of reform. However, the Tory Party, which has been in power since 2002, has no wish to reform it since it has a natural majority of (small c) conservatives, and most attempts by the Liberal Party to reform it have been blocked by the House of Lords. The existence of a powerful and conservative House of Lords has meant that radical or progressive legislation almost always fails to make it into law in this UK. On the other hand, the Lords are independent of party politics, attendance at the House varies from day to day, and many Lords are quite unpredictable, so they occasionally surprise people by passing a piece of legislation that all the wisest commentators had down as a dead cert to be squashed.
At present the Liberal Party is setting the agenda, calling for greatly increased spending on science and technology, a more progressive system of taxation, more financial aid for the poorer members of the Imperial Commonwealth, more pressure on foreign (non IC) governments to fall into line on various issues, and the privatisation of the UK education system. The limits of the Tory Party's ambitions are to reduce taxes and relieve the bureaucratic burden on businesses. One issue that concerns voters, but is ignored by both parties, is the extent to which both Tory and Liberal MPs are in hock to powerful financial interests.
The Parliamentary system is virtually the same as in OTL. Of course the Palace of Westminster and Big Ben do not exist, since they were built after the POD. At the end of the Eighteenth Century it was decided that a new and larger parliament building was required and this was completed in 1802. The new Houses of Parliament, in Battersea, are in a style best described as "mock-seventeenth-century Dutch gothic" and are known for their maze-like interior, containing many courtyards and gardens, including roof-gardens.
The House of Commons contains 450 MPs, each representing a single constituency and elected by a numerical-choice system (that is, voters number the candidates they wish to elect in order of preference). The current (2010) composition of the House of Commons is as follows.
Tory Party - 228
Liberal Party - 190
Anarchists - 13
New Party - 5
Dutch Nationalists - 5
Welsh Nationalists - 5
Independents - 4
Speaker of the House of Commons - 1
The Prime Minister is Mr Herbert Robinson, a balding, bearded, slightly overweight man, known for his ready wit. As a politician, he is a centrist. Before entering politics he was a university lecturer in Classical literature and history. The government has a majority of only seven, and so cannot enact any radical policies.
The Leader of the Opposition is Mr Ryutaro Sawamatsu. He is a radical who became leader of his party due to a fluke. He has his admirers, raving fans even, but most people regard him as an eccentric. His ideas might be described as a mixture of classical liberalism, egalitarianism and futurism. He is an elderly Japanese man (born in the UK) whose trim white hair, moustache and beard make him look a little like a magician. Before entering politics he was an entrepreneur.
Anarchist MPs represent a variety of political (anarchist) philosophies, but generally united in voting against the government of the day. Their presence in Parliament is due to protest voting against the two established political parties rather than genuine support for anarchism.
The New Party (formed 1874) is a home for all those people and ideas too left-wing to be entertained by the left-wing of the Liberal Party. They used to be much more popular - five MPs is a real low point for them.
The Dutch and Welsh Nationalists want their respective nations to secede from the United Kingdom and become Viceroyalties. They feel the United Kingdom is too dominated by England and the English and that their national identities are withering away. Both parties generally support the Liberal Party, but the Dutch Nationalists tend to be more right-wing than the Welsh Nationalists.
The House of Lords is relatively unreformed compared to OTL. It has the power to reject bills outright rather than just delay them. It consists of members of the aristocracy (NB the firstborn son OR DAUGHTER inherits the title and peers must pass on their title after the age of 65), and Archbishops and Bishops of the Church of England (who also must retire at 65). There is no such thing as life peers. The Monarch, and not the Prime Minister, retains the de facto power to create new peers and by tradition does so rarely.
Clearly the House of Lords is sorely in need of reform. However, the Tory Party, which has been in power since 2002, has no wish to reform it since it has a natural majority of (small c) conservatives, and most attempts by the Liberal Party to reform it have been blocked by the House of Lords. The existence of a powerful and conservative House of Lords has meant that radical or progressive legislation almost always fails to make it into law in this UK. On the other hand, the Lords are independent of party politics, attendance at the House varies from day to day, and many Lords are quite unpredictable, so they occasionally surprise people by passing a piece of legislation that all the wisest commentators had down as a dead cert to be squashed.
At present the Liberal Party is setting the agenda, calling for greatly increased spending on science and technology, a more progressive system of taxation, more financial aid for the poorer members of the Imperial Commonwealth, more pressure on foreign (non IC) governments to fall into line on various issues, and the privatisation of the UK education system. The limits of the Tory Party's ambitions are to reduce taxes and relieve the bureaucratic burden on businesses. One issue that concerns voters, but is ignored by both parties, is the extent to which both Tory and Liberal MPs are in hock to powerful financial interests.
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bump. i want to hear what's next for the empire? inevetable decline and fall. can you countinue into 21st century up to, say 2050? remember, every empire declines eventually, the need for reform in the house of lords seems likely to create a leftwing build up, maybe leading to civil war, the anglo-dutch seem to have some dark clouds ahead. can they make it out alive?
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radical_neutural said:
Possibly but I don't know- as it is the Empire is very stable. They're a very rich hyperpower with a transnational identity
I think the major tensions will probably result from space colonisation as the space colonies gain more and more representation. With their monopoly on certain zero-G industrial processes and access to space resources concentrated in the hands of a relatively small population most of which are corporate employed you might see Luna becoming more and more resented over the next century or so.You have to remember that the stats below are only concerning the UK which is merely one member of the Imperial Commonwealth (though the founding member).
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