Ancestors of Modern-Day Europeans...?

Don Grey

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Well, from the paternal lineages, presence of Haplogroups Q and C are the best indicators of an Altaic (read: Turko-Mongol) ancestry. Haplogroup Q in Germany is almost certainly of Hunnic origin, and it's also associated with other migrations of Turkic peoples, and it's also found to a small percentage in Turkey (most of Turkey is however of Middle Eastern, Caucasian or Indo-European descend). Haplogroup Q is common to northeastern Asia, and it'a also the most dominant Haplogroup amongst native Americans (specifically, the subclade of Q1a3a accounts for nearly all Native American paternal lineages). Note that obviously Haplogroup Q itself is older than the migrations into the Americas or the emergence of the Altaic languages. ;)

Haplogroup C is another peculiar issue, because this is the Haplogroup that was (with high probability) Ghenghis Khan's Haplogroup. ;)

If Q and C are best indicators of altaic heritage and the hunnic's had them does that mean the hunnic's are altaic? I ask because in school there considered turkic in origin.
 
If Q and C are best indicators of altaic heritage and the hunnic's had them does that mean the hunnic's are altaic? I ask because in school there considered turkic in origin.

Well, the Turkic language family is a sub-branch of the Altaic languages, isn't it? ;)

Also, Q and C per se are no indicators of Altaic heritage, but certain subclades of Q and C are, especially because both Y-Haplogroups are vastly older. To pick the textbook examples, both Australian aboriginals and Native Americans obviously have nothing to do with it. ;)

Also, one issue is, Turkic (or Altaic-speaking peoples as a whole) are quite widespread and intermixed A LOT with local peoples, who often have a completely different ancestry. The textbook example there really is modern Turkey. ;)
 
Ah, family mystery? Similar to the guy from the Hunsrück with Hunnic ancestors? ;)

And no, I didn't know about that about Sitting Bull. However, it's always interesting to see the DNA results for historic persons. It sometimes produces very surprising results. :)

Put it this way, it may help explain the Mongolian Spot at the base of my blue-eyed, fair-skinned son's back.
 
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