I don't wanna say Anne was the root of all of their problems, but it will be interesting, I can assure you that.No, Henry and Catherine’s I wonder what will happen to them without Anne.
I don't wanna say Anne was the root of all of their problems, but it will be interesting, I can assure you that.No, Henry and Catherine’s I wonder what will happen to them without Anne.
I know, but damn will Catherine have a better time at it here. Henry probably won’t split with the church.I don't wanna say Anne was the root of all of their problems, but it will be interesting, I can assure you that.
I think Henry stopped trying prior to then. But maybe something could cause him to try one more time and be lucky.Catherine hit menopause in 1525, so there's still plenty of time for more babies.
I don't see why Henry would stop trying while Catherine is still fertile. He needs that son.I think Henry stopped trying prior to then. But maybe something could cause him to try one more time and be lucky.
I know but I think around the early 1520s he just gave up on Catherine, he just thought a son with her wasn’t going to happen.I don't see why Henry would stop trying while Catherine is still fertile. He needs that son.
Yeah, after 1524 they weren't even sleeping together anymore and Catherine was only 38, which makes me think that she'd hit menopause.I know but I think around the early 1520s he just gave up on Catherine, he just thought a son with her wasn’t going to happen.
Thank god we are still in 1522 then!Yeah, after 1524 they weren't even sleeping together anymore and Catherine was only 38, which makes me think that she'd hit menopause.
Oh, I thought it was earlier in the 1520s. Anyways as @pandizzy said we are still in 1522, so there is a window for her to get pregnant with a son.Yeah, after 1524 they weren't even sleeping together anymore and Catherine was only 38, which makes me think that she'd hit menopause.
Maybe that Spanish revolt fights in the name of Ferdinand of Austria and something happens to Austria?It would be hilarious if Charles was only Duke of Burgundy after all of this, with a Portuguese King/Infante invited to rule Spain...
I think you ought to be more worried about what Henry VIII will do rather than how the Spaniards will reactSpain is not gonna take their king jilting the portuguese princess for a english nobody very well...
Oh I see, that makes sense, but what happens to Austria? Does Charles keep that?Possibly, though I missprhased it, that his decendants would only be Dukes of Burgundy, as he could still be Emperor but it won't be passed to his morganitic sons (Ferdinand inherits the empire) while John III of Portugal takes Spain..
I suppose, but Ferdinand doesn't really wield much influence yet, the Pope might be cool with it. Really I wonder how Henry VIII reacts to Charles marrying Anne instead of Mary.I think y'all are forgetting that all of this will depend on how two people will react: Ferdinand, and the Pope, who is still Charles' old tutor, Adrian VI
Not well, I will assure you.I suppose, but Ferdinand doesn't really wield much influence yet, the Pope might be cool with it. Really I wonder how Henry VIII reacts to Charles marrying Anne instead of Mary.
Probably, can't wait to see how Anne and Charles's marriage comes to be and how Europe reacts!Not well, I will assure you.
Would they go to war over a marriage though?It would be hilarious if Charles was only Duke of Burgundy after all of this, with a Portuguese King/Infante invited to rule Spain...
Possibly, though I missprhased it, that his decendants would only be Dukes of Burgundy, as he could still be Emperor but it won't be passed to his morganitic sons (Ferdinand inherits the empire) while John III of Portugal takes Spain..