An Heir for Sigismund II

Sorry for the double post:eek:

The Nihil Novi law and the Golden Liberty of the Sejm, how would they be affected by Siggie having an heir? Would Sig.II try to repeal the Nihil Novi, or could he even? And what might the results be of that?
 
Originally posted by JonasResende
The Nihil Novi law and the Golden Liberty of the Sejm, how would they be affected by Siggie having an heir? Would Sig.II try to repeal the Nihil Novi, or could he even? And what might the results be of that?

I don't think he could. His father didn't do it, and he also had an heir after all, Sigismund II himself. If you give some group a right or a privilege, it is very hard to take it from them. Especially if we're talking about Polish noblemen. However, Sigismund II might try to establish better regulations for work of the Sejm.
 
Originally posted by JonasResende


I don't think he could. His father didn't do it, and he also had an heir after all, Sigismund II himself. If you give some group a right or a privilege, it is very hard to take it from them. Especially if we're talking about Polish noblemen. However, Sigismund II might try to establish better regulations for work of the Sejm.

So in other words perhaps he could streamline the dealings somewhat?
 
It's slightly off-topic, but I find it fascinating that Bona Sforza has no known legitimate descendants today.
 
It's slightly off-topic, but I find it fascinating that Bona Sforza has no known legitimate descendants today.

It is, when you think about the possible marriages considered for her daughters:
  • Albrecht II Alcibiades of Brandenburg
  • Karl Viktor/Philipp Magnus of Brunswick-Lüneburg
  • Ernst of Bavaria
  • Gustaf I; Erik XIV, Johan III and Duke Magnus of Sweden
  • Johann Friedrich II/Johann Wilhelm of Saxony
  • Johann Albrecht of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
  • Magnus of Denmark
  • Gotthard Kettler
  • Eberhard, Erbprinz of Württemberg
  • Various dukes of Pomerania
  • Ernst of Austria
  • Alfonso II d'Este
  • Frederick IV of Liegnitz
  • Ivan the Terrible
  • Albrecht, duke of Prussia
  • Various French princes
One would think that she would have at least ONE royal (not even reigning) descendant today.
 
Originally posted by JonasResende
So in other words perhaps he could streamline the dealings somewhat?

That he could do. And, by supporting the executionist movement, achieved quite a lot. ITTL his policy would be IMO different, probably without creating PLC, altough I think he would try to do it and probably make some progress. But with legal successor he would not have needed to hurry and Lithuanian magnates might be more successful resisting a full union. Sigismund's son would be both King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania, and that meant continuous Polish support for Lithuania against Russia. The PLC was created because (among many other things) Lithuanians were worried that Poles might elect a new king who would not be interested in becoming also ruler of Lithuania leaving Lithuanians on their own against Moscow.
 
So what if Sigismund I/II get off their asses to get their daughters/sisters married. Apparently in several instances some of the abovementioned bridegrooms were pissed off by what was considered a miserly dowry for a royal princess. I figure if Bona could loan money from Bari and Rossano to Felipe II maybe she could contribute to the dowries?
 
I see a lot of dislike for the Polish Wasas here, but I don't really see anyone offering an alternative solution as a way to block them (like by marrying Catherine Jagiellon's sisters off earlier to different husbands to increase the chances of another dynasty taking over.:confused:
 
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