An Eternal La Belle Epoque

schnitzel

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What if the cultural attitudes of the Victorian-Edwardian-La Belle Epoque period had survived due to a averted or milder World War I? What if industrial genocide had been avoided?
 
Nothing last forever.. The moral hypocrisy of Victorian era HAD to break down or relax one day, as it did...

And WWI killed the Belle Epoque and all.
 

schnitzel

Banned
Still, Victorian era was rather... stiff, let's say.

Well of course. I perhaps should clarify. I didn't mean exact same Victorian attitudes to now but evolved Victorian attitudes-ie more optimistic, progress-oriented, and moralistic than our own rather cynical culture.
 
Leave Victorian stuff.
Belle epoque spirit is more Paris that London.
In any case is more Bertie that Victoria.
But i think that belle epoque is more that can can and champagne,is optimism about progress,is old European tradition that meet the new tecnology,is Europe at center of the scene.
If you want a never ending belle epoque,avoid WW-I and others mayor wars.
I remember a beautifull counterfactual story in which Franco-Prussian war not happen,and the XX century is a pleasent and peacefull sequel of late XIX.
 

schnitzel

Banned
Leave Victorian stuff.
Belle epoque spirit is more Paris that London.
In any case is more Bertie that Victoria.
But i think that belle epoque is more that can can and champagne,is optimism about progress,is old European tradition that meet the new tecnology,is Europe at center of the scene.
If you want a never ending belle epoque,avoid WW-I and others mayor wars.
I remember a beautifull counterfactual story in which Franco-Prussian war not happen,and the XX century is a pleasent and peacefull sequel of late XIX.

Wasn't that in What If 2?
 

Wolfpaw

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I remember a beautifull counterfactual story in which Franco-Prussian war not happen,and the XX century is a pleasent and peacefull sequel of late XIX.
Is that the story where Talleyrand's ghost advises Napoleon III?

EDIT: Damn. Sorta Ninja'd
 
My dream timeline. :rolleyes:

Wasn't that in What If 2?

Horne, Alistair. "France Turns the Other Cheek, July 1870"
Divergence: 1870 CE
What if: France did not declare war on Prussia over the Ems Telegram.
Summary: Essay describing how France could have extended its influence in Europe, including a second Congress of Vienna. Meanwhile, Prussia's influence wanes and Germany is not united.
Published: In What If? 2: Eminent Historians Imagine What Might Have Been (ed. Robert Cowley), q.v.
 

schnitzel

Banned
I liked it though I disliked the whole idea that a unified Deutschland could not exist for such a world to occur.
 
Sufficent little modifications.
An Asburgic federation,and a European comunity.
After this enjoy your valtzer.
 
I liked it though I disliked the whole idea that a unified Deutschland could not exist for such a world to occur.
Well, it is not in OTL either. Austria's still independent. In that timeline the dividing line is just a bit farther north is all.
 
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