An Earlier Iron Curtain?

WI the Revolutions of 1848 had succeeded in toppling the Russian government? Would there have been an earlier Iron Curtain, and perhaps no Crimean War? What might a 19th Century Soviet Union and its allies have looked like?
 
Oh for the love of...!

I'm going to say this slowly and clearly, so you and all the others who say these things understand.

THE. 1848. REVOLUTIONS. WERE. NOT. COMMUNIST. They were nationalist in rhetoric, and while they were for more democracy (and other "leftist" things as far as the more oppressive states were concerned) they did not advocate any of communist principle. Hell, the german revolutionaries offered Prussia the chance to become German Emporer, something no communist would ever even consider.
 
Oh for the love of...!

I'm going to say this slowly and clearly, so you and all the others who say these things understand.

THE. 1848. REVOLUTIONS. WERE. NOT. COMMUNIST. They were nationalist in rhetoric, and while they were for more democracy (and other "leftist" things as far as the more oppressive states were concerned) they did not advocate any of communist principle. Hell, the german revolutionaries offered Prussia the chance to become German Emporer, something no communist would ever even consider.
Not only that, you missed the obvious telling-off point: the Revolutions of 1848 didn't spread to Russia!
 
And of course Marx had published his manifesto that very year. That is one quick-acting revolution.

So yeah. This thread is bad, and you should feel bad.

The best 1848 PoDs to consider, at least that I know of, are "Could the Italians have pressed home their early advantage and caught Austria off balance if the King of Sardinia had been bolder?" and "What could have happened in Germany if FWIV had been a nationalist romantic with a clear head?"

As said, nothing even happened in Russia.
 
Likewise, communism/socialism, and the Soviets and Soviet Union are not the same thing. Thus, even if there were a Communist revolution in say Germany in the late 19th century, that does not translate to Stalinism nor an Iron Curtain.
 
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