So it's a Nazi War goal. So what? How does that in any way prevent them from doing so later instead of right off the bat. The Nazis felt that if they won the war, they would have all the time in the world to do whatever they wanted to the Soviet Union.
I'd also appreciate it if you stop your condescending tone. I'm well aware of what the Nazis goals in Europe were, thank you very much. I'm well aware of how disgusting Hitler and his cronies were, which doesn't change my position at all.
We all know that you won't budge. Guess what? Neither will I. But I see no reason to keep saying the same things again and again and again. I don't need people accepting my views for me to gain validation. I've said what there is to say, and that's all I will say.
Why doesn't it prevent it? Because historically the Wehrmacht was doing this on Hitler's express orders beginning in Poland in 1939, spreading into the Balkans in 1941, then into the USSR itself. There was no moral integrity whatsoever in the Wehrmacht, and to Hitler this is a normal, ordinary military operation. However much German fanboys like you want to pretend Hitler was lying when he said he was going to do this not during peacetime but during the war you provide no evidence, simply the same yammering about how the Germans will not do this with no evidence to prove it, where mine derives from the real Wehrmacht and SS both.
You must not be aware of it given the extent to which you're going to claim the same people who killed a fourth of the population of contemporary Belarus in four years and 3 million Soviet POWs in one will blush at doing this. It's whitewashing Hitler, and whitewashing the German war machine in WWII. Call it whatever you like but claiming the only real Germans are bad Germans who weren't very bad is hardly being pro-German, it's a slap in the face at the entire rest of German history.
Hitler raised his little village in Austria, but there where documented conversations between himself Speer and Skorzeny where he claimed Linz was going to be the new capital of Europe
Provide citations or specific quotes, which I have done for my statements of the real Hitler as opposed to the whitewashed and neutered one you pretend existed.
Starving the city to death is not the same as rounding up 3 million people for shooting and gassing... He would be much more likely to chose the former in the context of rapid capture of the city because he doesn't have the manpower to liquidate a city that big given that there is a war going on
This was the same manpower tied down for 900 days IOTL, starve and raze the city and it's free for the rest of the war. I'm sure the Nazis won't do this or try to justify it this way because
mumblemumble but you know you very seldom argue these discussions with the real Nazis that did this kind of thing on a regular basis.
the army didn't do mass executions; they did localized executions and TRANSFERRED people to the einsatzgruppen for execution... for as morally bankrupt as most of the generals where ritter von leeb or any other field marshal in 1941 is not going to order his divisions to shoot three million people;
Except the 3 million Soviet POWs they did kill and the instances where Wehrmacht generals authorized massive, random shootings of newly-occupied territories, including shooting Jews as per the Commisssar Order. Again, you're not describing the real Wehrmacht here, you're describing some fantasy one that never existed. The real one did enforce the orders to this regard, enforced them zealously, and was responsible for the death of millions in "counter-partisan sweeps" when that was sometimes just a pretext.
Hitler didn't eschew urban battles; he just didn't have the opportunity to get sucked into big battles to that point because the west surrendered their big cities for fear of bombardment and otherwise the germans encircled and destroyed russian field armies in front of their big cities and advanced on them against little resistance)
You've just confessed here to reading next to nothing in modern sources on Hitler or the Wehrmacht. Hitler ordered Warsaw surrounded and bombed and shelled, instead of fighting street for street and house for house. He did the same thing in Leningrad. You've also confessed in this idiotic statement to having read next to nothing on how the Hitler-orders actually worked, as his concepts were for lightning, bloodless victories and unlike his generals he knew that urban battles would never be nothing of the sort.
You seem to be confusing 1943 with 1941; the commisar order was enforced; but that enforcement was 90-95 percent transfer to the einsatzgruppen for execution, not shoot on the spot
You seem to be here believing when generals like von Manstein, Guderian, von Bock, Paulus, and others gave orders like this they had no chance of them being carried out. If they were willing to give orders like this that were not enforced then they had no business having a rank above private.
HITLER GAVE A LOT OF ORDERS THAT NOBODY PRETENDED TO OBEY SUCH AS CAPTURING THE AZORES... GUDERIAN WAS ORDERED TO CAPTURE CITIES 500 MILES EAST OF MOSCOW AS PART OF HIS OBJECTIVE IN OPERATION TYPHOON
Which did not happen because contrary to the Nazis' expectations the Soviets by the fall of 1941 were outgeneraling them to the point that Soviet infantrymen with rifles were superior to Germans with air power and panzers.
Hitler bore no particular grudge against urban combat; warsaw suffered a massive bombardment and two general assaults (1st failed) in 1939... he had no problem sending Rommel's division into Cherbourg; this was more circumstantial than objective. And the 6th army being drawn into stalingrad had zero to do with russian tactical skill to that point (as the Germans had crushed them from the start of case blue) and everything to do with Hitler fucking up every aspect of case blue's direction
So it's the "Germany lost because of Hitler and not the generals" myth, eh? Hitler did not like the idea the generals had of overunning empty territory, nor did he particularly think the generals should have scaled Mount Elbrus instead of doing something like fighting the war. People blame Hitler for Germany's defeat so as to avoid realizing the army that lost the war lost the war and it was outgeneraled, outfought, and outthought. Much easier to pretend Hitler was a dumbass when he was not one, as that way one can hate Hitler and love the Wehrmacht when in reality Nazi Germany was rotten from top to bottom and the Wehrmacht did not protest anything Hitler did, individual generals did and they STFU when it was their careers on the line. You claim blatant falsehoods about the real WWII, back them up.