Fantastic list what about Gambit? I suggest Jean Claude Van Damme of course.
Well, Gambit wasn't introduced OTL until 1990 anyway.
Fantastic list what about Gambit? I suggest Jean Claude Van Damme of course.
By now, this obvious gaffe has been retconned in the book: it's Erskine.ColeMercury said:upcoming role in the Captain America movie as Dr Reinstein
A fascinating choice. It also sounds like I'd have liked "Spectre" better than any Bond film but OTL's "Never Say Never Again" or Craig's "Casino Royale" (Not a Bond fan at all... For the record, tho: Connery, Craig, Brosnan, & the others.)ColeMercury said:George Lazenby
ColeMercury said:a Margaret Thatcher impersonator and a talking parrot.
That's for sure. He'd have been my last choice. There were no good Brits? Scots? Irish? (Peter O'Toole too old?) Welshmen?ColeMercury said:Broccoli’s final selection was a surprising one: American actor James Brolin.
ColeMercury said:Michaela Clavell replacing Lois Maxwell
Two really good choices IMO. (Rhys-Davis I'll always remember from "Shogun", & Barbara from "Embryo"...)ColeMercury said:Barbara Carrera made a fascinating Bond girl in the role of Domino Petachi, John Rhys-Davies was a surprisingly good villain in the role of Maximilian Largo
Genetics being what they are, she doesn't have to resemble him at all.ColeMercury said:Luke Skywalker's sister? So, someone who's born in the 1950s and looks like they could be related to Bill Mumy
I'm thinking of her from "Cat People". She seems pretty young. Unless you're thinking "Hollywood teenager".Glen said:How about Annette O'Toole?
(Then again, not sure who I'd cast... Fred Savage comes to mind. Neil Patrick Harris, too.)ColeMercury said:Spider-Man (starring Matthew Broderick as Peter Parker)
Somebody who didn't grow up speaking English will never have a "flawless" accent, & even Brits have a problem. (The only actor I've ever known get it right is Hugh Laurie.)ColeMercury said:by that time he was able to speak with a flawless American accent in films
I have, & it's hard.ColeMercury said:Just try it. I dare you.
ColeMercury said:I've just severely altered Ferris Bueller's Day Off, or possibly butterflied it away completely.
Am I right this effectively brings Swayze's career to an end? (Tho I did like the fight in "Roadhouse"...)ColeMercury said:Eagle's Fury basically takes the cultural place of Red Dawn
Thank you.ColeMercury said:There are no Rambo sequels.
One day, I'm going to figure out why people like that. Then I'm going to die.ColeMercury said:Doctor Who
This gives Bruce Willis' career a severe blow, IMO. (Possibly a death blow... No "Sunset"? No "Pulp Fiction"? {I sense Quentin would use him anyhow.} No "12 Monkeys"? No "6th Sense"? OTOH, if "Striking Distance" & "Hudson Hawk" & "5th Element" never get made, I wouldn't cry. And if the "Die Hard" sequel plague is avoided, so much the better.)ColeMercury said:Die Hard: Commando II (1988) is best known for being the first film appearance of actor Alan Rickman as the Russian terrorist leader Anton Grechko, who was widely considered to be the best part of a film that generally did not distinguish itself.
...more like its original conception -- less heist film, more terrorism thriller.
Does the Vietnam vet demographic not play into a sequel's chances?ColeMercury said:Rambo still dies at the end of First Blood because there's less potential for a sequel
Given the first film is liable to be an origin story, why not use Gobby?Pyro said:who is Spider-Man's antagonist in ITTL film? I am betting on Doctor Octopus since the original Green Goblin has been dead for over a decade at this point
Why? Even allowing Harry hasn't put the suit on yet, I don't see a connection. And since Norman & Gwen are dead in the comics, why wouldn't the book's writer (don't recall who was doing the book at the time...) do it?Pyro said:Clone Saga, which is likely butterflied now.
An excellent choice, even allowing you ignore that stupid Cosmic Cube origin.Pyro said:Wilson was played by a young and fairly obscure stage-and-occasionally-screen actor named Laurence Fishburne.
Agreed. It could also establish Sly is capable of serious dramatic work, in the vein of "Copland' & "Get Carter", or "Cliffhanger" (OK, not a big stretch, but "not Rocky" & "not Rambo") much sooner than OTL.Hörnla said:IMHO, Rambo dying at the end of First Blood will have enormous butterflies. ...This in turn will lift First Blood to the rank of a classic movie
Have you ever seen For Your Eyes Only? I'm sorry to say that's completely OTL.phx1138 said:ColeMercury said:a Margaret Thatcher impersonator and a talking parrot.
Have you read all the updates? The actress who plays Zara is Jamie Lee Curtis.phx1138 said:Genetics being what they are, she doesn't have to resemble him at all.
I'm thinking of her from "Cat People". She seems pretty young. Unless you're thinking "Hollywood teenager".
They're both way too young! Savage is only nine years old and Harris is only 12 in the year of the film's release. Broderick, on the other hand, is 23.phx1138 said:(Then again, not sure who I'd cast... Fred Savage comes to mind. Neil Patrick Harris, too.)
No. Red Dawn is still made, in case that wasn't clear, but it's less of a cult classic.phx1138 said:Am I right this effectively brings Swayze's career to an end? (Tho I did like the fight in "Roadhouse"...)
Oh, really?phx1138 said:This gives Bruce Willis' career a severe blow, IMO. (Possibly a death blow... [...])
What about Michael J. Fox for Peter Parker? I realise that Family Ties is now on the air, but would they really pull a "Remmington Steele" on him just to be dogs in the manger?
For that matter, ColeMercury, what is your opinion about the rest of my casting choices?
For a lot of of these, I'm agnostic, but I've got to say:Well, one upon a time, I had for an 80s Marvel Movieverse:
Michael J. Fox as Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Willford Brimley as Uncle Ben
Betty White as Aunt May
Hulk Hogan as himself
Elizabeth Shue as Gwen Stacy
Molly Ringwald as Mary Jane Watson
Dann Florek as J. Jonah Jameson.
John Goodman as Otto Octavius/Dr.Octopus.
Jeffery Jones as Norman Osborne/Green Goblin
Ralph Macchio as Harry Osborne
Mickey Rourke as Flint Marko/Sandman
Rowdy Roddy Piper as MacDonald Gargan/Scorpion I
Charlie Sheen as Quintin Back/Mysterio I
Sam Neil as Kraven
Patrick Swayze as Eddie Brock/Venom
Jeff Speakman as Matt Murdoch/Daredevil
Tom Hanks as "Foggy" Nelson
Kelsey Grammer as The Owl
Lesley Ann Warren (after about a year in a dojo) as Elektra
The Gladiator (The Wrestler) as Himself
Liam Neeson as Bullseye
Arnold Scwartzenegger as Nuke
Scott Bakula as Bruce Banner
Dabney Coleman as General Ross
Natasja Kinski as Betsy Ross
Kris Kristofferson as Bruce Banner's Dad
Bruce Willis as The Abomination
Rick Moranis as The Leader
Telly Sevalas or Albert Finney as Wilson Fisk/Kingpin
Cynthia Rothick as Silver Sable.
Nancy Wilson from Heart (The Heavy Metal Band) as Typhoid Mary.
Brigitte Nielsen as Black Widow
Steven Segal as Frank Castle/Punisher
Cloiris Leachman as Joan the Mouse
Anne Ramsey as Ma Gnucci
I know Patrick Stewart was just born for Professor X, how about Christopher Lloyd as Magneto!
Mark Summers as Scot Summers/Cyclops
Kurt Russel as Wolverine (See Especially his roles in Big Trouble in Little China and Escape from New York to see what I mean)
Kim Catrall as Rogue
Lisa Welchel as Jean Gray
Tracy Gold as Kitty Pryde
Michael Keaton as Hank McCoy/Beast
Val Kilmer as Bobby Drake/Iceman
Holly Robinson as Storm
Stephanie Chow as Jubalee
Jimmy Sixkiller as Thunderbird I
Bolo Yeung as Sunfire
Sonny Chiba as Silver Samurai
Kenneth Branaugh as Sebastian Shaw
Matt Dillon as Warren Worthington III/Angel
Madonna as Emma Frost
King Kong Bundy as The Blob
Road Warrior Animal as The Sha'ir Gladiator
Denzel Washington as Bishop
Tim Thomerson as (Middle Aged) Nathan Gray/Cable
Jim Carrey as Deadpool
Mr. T. as Luke Cage
Michael Dutikoff as Danny Rand/Iron Fist
Tamylin Tomita as Colleen Wing
Kim Fields (After about a year in a dojo) as Misty Knight
Kelly LeBrock (after spending a year in a dojo) as either Jessica Drew/Spiderwoman or Psylocke.
Cary Elwes as Captain Brittain
Sting as Pete Wisdom
Lisa Ruddy as Squirrel Girl
William H. Macy as Mr. Immortal
Bob Saget as Doorman
Rosanne Barr as Big Bertha
Thomas F. Wilson as Flatman
Tom Cruise as Captain America
Kevin Costner as Hawkeye
Vincent D'Onofirio as Thor
Justine Bateman as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlett Witch
William Zabka as Pietro Maximoff/Quicksilver
Tommy Lee Jones as 40's Soldier and 60's Spy Nick Fury
Tim Thomerson as 80's SHIELD Director Nick Fury
Brian Dennehy as Dum Dum Dugan
Corrin Nemec as Speedball
Timothy Daly as Tony Stark/Iron Man
Ernie Hudson as Jim Rhodes
Jeff Bridges as Justin Hammer
Mako as Mandrin
Ted Danson as Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic
Kristy Swanson as Sue Storm/Invisible Woman
Stacy Keach as Ben Grimn/Thing
Emillio Estavez as Johnny Storm/Human Torch II
For a lot of of these, I'm agnostic, but I've got to say:
Molly Ringwald as MJ? Nothing like exotic enough. You need more supermodelish.
Kristy Swanson as Sue Storm/Invisible Woman. An interesting choice, but IDK...
Kim Fields as Misty? You want Pam Grier or Tamara Dobson. (I know, too old...)
Betty White as Aunt May? IDK...
Kristoferson? OK, had they retconned Hulk's origin by then? (Never a fan...)
Brigitte Nielsen as Black Widow? Again, Veronica? Greta with a dye job?
Kim Catrall as Rogue? She's way too old.
Lisa Welchel as Jean Gray? Too blonde...but not a terrible choice for Gwen. I'm thinking more Marta DuBois with a dye job: tall & great looking. Kelly LeBrock? Veronica Hamel?
Tracy Gold as Kitty? IDK. I'm thinking Kristy McNicol.
Holly Robinson as Storm? She's not regal enough. Think Imam or Tyra.
Madonna as Emma Frost? She can't act... Kim Catrall, there, maybe.
Tom Cruise as Captain America? Bruce Willis, maybe. Even Sly. Cruise is too small.
Ted Danson as Reed? What about Jon Cypher?
Also, for Ben, what about Charles Haid ("Hill Street")?
And who as Tessa? Kurt? Peter? (Too early for 'yana? Lilandra?)
I'll go along with that.Kalvan said:You absolutely need a natural redhead in this role.
I'll leave off LeBrock, since the only redhead (& not AFIAK natural) I can think of is Tanya Roberts. Hmm... Phoebe Cates?Kalvan said:Kelly LeBrock is too British
I don't recall suggesting her.Kalvan said:Brigitte Nielsen is simply out.
Why? You want gorgeous, right? And talented? Elizabeth, much as I like her (& I really do), doesn't have the class Gwen had.Kalvan said:And those candidates for Gwen you mentioned are just plain out.
I don't see her having the presence she'd need.Kalvan said:I think she'll be able to sell it after she spends that time in the dojo
I didn't think so, myself.Kalvan said:Claremont seems to have had Rogue pegged as early-mid 20s by 1985. But Catrall was convincing enough in the original Porky's.
The question really is, when do we meet Rogue? Since the film doesn't really depend on her having fought Carol... So good chance IMO she'd be younger.Kalvan said:Somehow, I don't see why they would skew her much younger when Kitty's in the same film, and I'm certain they won't use the same plot as the 1999 movie.
Agreed. I was looking for the "cute butch" McNicol does. She might be too old by then... Nancy McKeon too old, too? Alyssa Milano? Danielle Fishel ("Boy Meets World")?Kalvan said:We need someone who is convincing as a teenager, and pretty (in a Mazo Fever kind of way) but not to glamourous for Kitty.
Recall how tall 'roro was. If she's under 5'10", she's too short IMO. You need somebody who does leonine, & preferably somebody who has learned that very upright model's walk. (You'd probably have to train her out of placing her feet that way, tho, or be careful how you shoot it...)Kalvan said:There were several times during the run of 21 Jump Street that Robinson was plenty regal enough.
Not acquired by me. Nor do I desire to.Kalvan said:So long as you keep Sean Penn, or any other current or former flames off the set, and hire a director who can push her, she can put in a pretty darn good performance.
But I admit on the silver screen she is an acquired taste.
I'm seeing Sly as Rocky, & thinking he can do it. As I think about it, tho, let me steal one from vultan: Bruce Campbell. (Actually, OTGH, a double in the suit & dubbing would do nicely...)Kalvan said:But Willis and Stallone are even smaller! Camera angles to make him look big are even in Sly's contracts, which is why I'll never cast him as Steve or Frank.
For me, Ioan Gruffudd was perfectly cast.Kalvan said:Ted is the only person from that time I can picture making the gray temples work without being hokey.
I appreciate the effort you've put into this -- I'm not really a comic-book guy, so it's nice to have the opinion of someone who knows what they're talking about. Although I can't help notice that you have casting suggestions for roles that I have already cast...Let's try this again. I find I can't improve on OTL choices of Christopher Reeve, Lynda Carter, Michael Keaton, and John Wesley Shipp for Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, and the Barry Allen Flash, but here are my ideas for the rest:
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Hopefully some time this week. I have nothing but free time right now, so chances are good I'll bother to write something.Btw Cole when can we expect an update sorry if you already stated so...
Kirk Cameron as Ronnie Raymond/Firestorm
That's awesomely hilarious, although you'll need him to be cast before 1988, when he converts to evangelical Christianity and becomes a notorious prima donna, demanding G-rated rewrites on the set of Growing Pains to eliminate very modest 'racy' scenes, such as kissing his on-screen girlfriend.
Am I right this effectively brings Swayze's career to an end? (Tho I did like the fight in "Roadhouse"...)
This gives Bruce Willis' career a severe blow, IMO. (Possibly a death blow... No "Sunset"? No "Pulp Fiction"? {I sense Quentin would use him anyhow.} No "12 Monkeys"? No "6th Sense"? OTOH, if "Striking Distance" & "Hudson Hawk" & "5th Element" never get made, I wouldn't cry. And if the "Die Hard" sequel plague is avoided, so much the better.
Does the Vietnam vet demographic not play into a sequel's chances?
That's awesomely hilarious, although you'll need him to be cast before 1988, when he converts to evangelical Christianity and becomes a notorious prima donna, demanding G-rated rewrites on the set of Growing Pains to eliminate very modest 'racy' scenes, such as kissing his on-screen girlfriend.