3. Could the forces behind Blake's 7 and Red Dwarf be drawn more to Hollywood to try to get their ideas onto the big screen.
2. Would the BBC been tempted to let a Dr. Who film be made in this TL? I think Dr Who had been fading in popularity during the early 80's.
I'd recommend that you take this to the Pop-Cultural Timelines Go-To Thread.I don't think so. Terry Nation did work Hollywood, but I don't think he's going to have any more success than in OTL. I don't know if a slightly earlier and very different rise of blockbusters might save the British film industry, in which case there are possibilities. The pertinent project, given the years discussed so far, would surely be Hitchiker's Guide.
The popularity didn't fade til 1985 - it actually increased after Davison replaced Tom Baker. But the timing is good: 1980-81 was the year DW was big in America. The Nth Doctor by Jean-Marc Lofficier covers the Daltenreys film (1986-94): The foreword mentions Hollywood interest in '81, in Doctor Who with Tom Baker. 1980 saw Baker's serials in successful US syndication, US editions of the novelisations with Harlan Ellison's intros, and in December the first US convention (in LA, attracting much attention). Interest dimmed after Baker quit but had been there in some quarters (Lofficier was tapped for advice by "producers who later released an unsuccessful Lone Ranger remake").
All you need to tempt the BBC into letting a DW film be made, is money. Two British producers, financed by various people including Brian Ferry, formed the company Daltenreys and acquired the movie rights in 1986. But the BBC naturally kept the TV rights and that compromised the merchandising rights - a huge barrier when Daltenreys tried to begin production in '88, with a script by Johnny Byrne (who'd written for DW in the early 80s). Unable to sell ancilliary rights to fund an independent production, they needed to sell themselves to a major studio. In '92 they managed to secure a deal with Lumiere, a French studio. Lumiere financed a new script by Denny Martin Flinn (co-writer of Star Trek VI) in '93 and Leonard Nimoy signed to direct. Nimoy's first choice to play the Dr was Pierce Brosnan.
A 1995 Doctor Who film directed by Spock and starring James Bond sounds like ASB, doesn't it? They wanted to feature Tom Baker in a cameo, too. But Nimoy was serious enough about it to do extensive research, and meet with Terrance Dicks and Barry Letts in early 1994 (in the company of Lofficier) to get their views on the script and production. The deal with the BBC stipulated that filming had to begin by April 1994. It didn't - possibly because Lumiere got cold feet after the BBC's negotiations with Amblin (via Phillip Segal) to produce a new TV series, were announced. The BBC refused Daltenrys a further extension, ending the possible confusion of competing Doctors.
There is one possibility pre-1986, but it wouldn't quite be a blockbuster and it would depend on a couple of things I'm not sure of. Like, in the absence of ET, would Universal be desperately looking for a family-friendly film to release in July 1982?
It could hardly get worse.Pyro said:Perhaps it will butterfly the outcome, knowing how much more of a clusterfuck DC continuity became after Crisis.
No way she beats Marlee in "Children of a Lesser God".THE OBSERVER said:can you please have Sigourney Weaver win the Best Actress Oscar for playing Ripley in Aliens?
It could hardly get worse.
Alan on JLA would be really interesting. I have 2 concerns, tho. One, does it butterfly Watchmen? Two, does it butterfly JLI? (I really liked Giffen's work, up to his faux CA.)Pyro said:True enough. I know this is not a comic book based "What it?" but it would be if one of the butterflies produced by Superman's success in cinema would be that DC offers "Justice League of America" to Alan Moore in the early 80s (when their relationship was still cordial) who accepts for some strange reason and George Perez stays on as penciller. "New Titans Titans" flags in popularity, and DC decides to go whole hog on the reboot after the Crisis.
Though that may have additional butterflies since Marv Wolfman would probably not write "Crisis on Infinite Earths." I would probably go with Roy Thomas in that case because of how big a DC historian he was.
Since I'm in a tiny minority of those who didn't think Lynda Carter personified Diana, I'm probably not the one to listen to anyhow.Pyro said:Oh yeah, and for the once mentioned "Wonder Woman" and "Flash" movies, any updates on them. Lynda Carter I could see returning to the role, but who would they look at to play the Flash? (Who is still Barry Allen as this point.)
Awww. I was hoping he was the son of Valorum.Luke Skywalker is the son of Deak Skywalker.
But Alan Moore would turn all the heroes into creeps. I don't approve. I do strongly agree with you on Roy Thomas and George Perez, however.DC offers "Justice League of America" to Alan Moore
Take it to the Pop-Cultural Timelines Go-To Thread. I mean, I like TLs but I'd appreciate if you didn't put a TL in my TL so I can AH while I AH.Biting my lip really hard about some of the AH possibilities of the decade-long attempt to make a Batman movie in OTL.
The Pop Culture Timelines Go-To Thread isn't just about planning timelines - it's also about discussions relating to potential pop cultural PODs. I think a discussion of other Batman movies might be a perfect topic over there, so I'll take the liberty of starting it for you, and you're more than welcome to bring your ideas to the table.I can't really fit it into a timeline. I just want to see whether you're going to go with any of the directors attached to Batman between 1980 and 1986, and the script they were mulling over, or something completely different - because I think they all represent very different directions.
Remember that this TL has a POD of 1974...I can't really fit it into a timeline. I just want to see whether you're going to go with any of the directors attached to Batman between 1980 and 1986, and the script they were mulling over, or something completely different - because I think they all represent very different directions.